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Melanie was concerned with somehow "personally hurting" or "offending" stupid/ignorant people (e.g., commie pinko liberal atheists),

I seriously doubt that's what she was concerned with; far more likely that she was referring to the fact that members of the race cariacatured, and shown as happily serving massa, might find it offensive and/or hurtful.

But again, that's the way that stupid/ignorant people interpret it, etc.
It can only be "caricatured" historically correct if "Jocko" is a black (but I've seen many white Jockos on the properties of blacks and felt no offense whatsoever) because:
http://www.mountainhomeplace.com/jocko.htm
So anyway you look at it, Jocko as a beacon for freedom, a tribute to some of the best jockies ever, etc., it's (or should be) a POSITIVE connotation.
I also think it's ridiculous for certain Indian groups to be "offended" by the noble and extremely positive symbolic uses by athletic teams, schools, etc. (e.g, The Fightin' Illini, Chief Illiniwek, etc.).
and *I*

simply refuse to be concerned with that In every instance, that "racial cariacature" you're so concerned with is a POSITIVE one.

***. You obviously misread what Melanie posted on the subject of the use by the Underground Railroad; what you apparently missed was the part about how many of the figures were used WITHOUT THE KNOWLEGE OF THEIR OWNERS.

How they've been used is part of its POSITIVE connotation.

Handsome Jack Morrison
*gently remove the detonator to reply by e-mail
Even the Brits are turning into "cheese-eating surrender monkeys" (aka Frenchmen) these days: http://belmontclub.blogspot.com/2004/12/defense-of-realm-dr.html
I don't associate much with racists, though, which could be why I haven't known a lot of people who owned lawn jockeys.

As a point of note, you do need to remember that not all lawn jockeys are racial cariacatures.

Oh, sorry, I thought this discussion pertained to lawn jockeys which could be offensive to some people because they are racial cariacatures.
Mustang Sally
*It's at Chestnut and... I think it's 30th st; in any case, it's one block from the 7-11 which is at the corner of the # St. and Keswick, and faces the Methodist church on Chestnut.

It's a real work of art, isn't it?
Janet Boss
http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com /
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Ownership of lawn jockeys is an indicator of intelligence, then?
But I would defend with my life your constitutional right not to display a lawn jockey, tutu or no tutu!

Why thank you.
Mustang Sally
You can get around that problem by dressing the lawn jockey in a tutu.

Anyone know where I can get a green tutu - lawn jockey size?

I cannot even imagine deciding on someone's beliefs based on whether or not they had a lawn jockey - black or white or green - in their yard. I'd just figure that either they really liked the look of it or their MIL gave it to them as a housewarming present (again, with no racists thoughts on her part either).
~~Judy
I dunno, I'm not sure that's quite as alarming as the atomic mushrooms and mutant butterflies.

Okay, we have a nearby house with an old manure spreader in the front yard serving as a flower bed. They also line it with flags for the national holidays.
~~Judy
I cannot even imagine deciding on someone's beliefs based on whether or not they had a lawn jockey - black ... or their MIL gave it to them as a housewarming present (again, with no racists thoughts on her part either).

I think it's probably hopelessly optimistic to think that these things can exist without a ton of cultural and historical baggage, and putting one on display invites questions about how the displayer perceives those things. Assuming that someone who puts one out isn't overtly racist, they've got it for some other reason. "Really liked the look of it" of begs the question of why they really liked it. Given the historical connotations it simply can't be analogous to having a particular liking for the color blue, if for no other reason that there's the matter of cultural context. Well, maybe it's a little like having a particular liking for the color blue if you live in Compton.

Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - (Email Removed)

Amateurs study cryptography; professionals study economics. Allan Schiffman
There's a double-wide near here that
for a few years had a Christmas tallywhacker in front - it was a fortuitously shaped stump that was draped in lights,

I'm picturing them putting a raincoat of trashbags on it during inclement weather..
and I just about went off the road the first time I drove by it at night. The lights stayed ... picture, so a couple of months ago I finally drove over only to find that they'd cut down the stump.

Wondering if they cut down the stump themselves or if it just happened when they were out of town. I'm guessing if one neighbor did it, the others saw nothing.
~~Judy
I cannot even imagine deciding on someone's beliefs based on whether or not they had a lawn jockey - black or white or green - in their yard.

It's kind of similar to displaying the Confederate flag, in terms of its offensiveness to African-Americans.
Catherine
& Zoe the cockerchow
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