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The only time I feel completely confident handling snakes isafter I've had a drink or two! I have friends who ... them Emotion: wink I was so comfortable with the RTB that I once fell asleep withit wrapped around my neck LOL!

Aww, I've tried this too! :-) I also just feel sooo comfortable with my boa, it's just so relaxing to sit with him around my neck, that I can get very sleepy of it. So it has happened that I have laid down very carefully and just enjoyed his close company, and falling asleep with him. I've just been offered a quite large female which is just as tame and docile as my male, so it may happen with her some day too. I just hope she doesn't suddently want to constrict me, she probably could do it, I'm not sure I'm stronger than her... worst thing is, I'm not the least nervous about it, despite I somehow know I should be. How do you cure a 'snake-anti-phobia'? ;-)
I got bitten by my male some days ago. Feeding bite, fastest movement I've ever seen. Well, 'seen' is a wrong word, didn't really see it, just had him sitting in my finger before I could even think about getting out of the way. Of course I got a huge chock and pulled back, but ten minutes later I had him out and around my neck. I sure learned not to dangle a mouse in front of him in when he can easily reach my hand, but it didn't make me feel less comfortable with him in general. Just love those amazing critters, can't wait to get my new big female! :-)

Ulrik Smed,
Denmark, Aarhus
Mistress of Dragons (Email Removed) blurted:
Can snakes sense if you are nervous when handling them? I know other animals can, and will often take advantage ... and dogs in particular here. So ... am I more likely to get bitten if the snake senses I'm nervous?

Read the book The Naked Ape: A Zoologist's Study of the Human Animal by Desmond Morris. Fear is not a sense and is not sensed by animals. However, humans (not exactly like but very similar to every other animal on the planet) display very obvious physical symptoms of fear. They really don't vary from person to person.
Dogs (and probably every other animal, including snakes) see the ancient body language in big flashing neon. Simple signs - increased heart rate (hey, they just might be able to hear it!), sweaty palms, perspiration all over body (I'm sure they can smell that), etc. It is our body's fight or flight response - are you going to confront this fear or are you going to make a run for it? Either way, you're going to need to be physically ready to take action at any second.
I know when I'm handling my hoggie, occasionally my hands go a little clammy and cos of his smooth belly he get's sort of stuck and can't glide smoothly through my fingers!

He probably notices. However, my husband is one of those with perpetually clammy hands (but I don't hold it against him). He handles my snakes and he is a little afraid of them, too. They may notice his clamminess, as they can't slither smoothly over his hands. I think my snakes hurry up when they're on him because he's so blasted hot all the time, not because of his fear response.
You might have guessed I should be picking my new snake up today and I know I'm gonna be a little nervous handling him at first.

I think that fear is healthy! I maintain a healthy fear of lots of my animals. My little Okeetee corn snake is a feisty wench, so I know when I get her out of her cage she's going to be ready to strike me and rattle her tail in the palm of my hand. That's fine - she's never bitten me yet because I'm ready for it and don't give her the chance. She settles right down, too. )
Whenever we're at an outreach event and I hand a snake to a child, I always say the same things... please keep your hands over the table in case you drop it... please don't grab their head or wave your fingers in front of their face... take a deep breath... stay calm, and the snake will stay calm... move slow, and the snake will move slow... don't try to control it, keep your hands loose and let it slither wherever it wants! Emotion: smile

Hey, if it works for 6-year-olds it will work for you too! Emotion: big smile

fr0glet
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"Mistress of Dragons" <> wrote in message

Thanks Bill, so do you think they would react to ... I find this fear irrational and can't understand it. Chloe

I don't think the sense of fear would cause it to be more likely to bite unless you accidentally hurt ... know of so just be careful and don't go getting bit and say that Bill said it won't happen.. :-P

Bill, who needs science when you've got good ol' common sense? Emotion: smile I agree totally with your analysis. Emotion: stick out tongue
fr0glet
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The only time I feel completely confident handling snakes is after I've had a drink or two! I have friends ... to their's after the pub I'm usually the first one to get the snakes out and play with them Emotion: wink

Hey, I'll confess to that too... Miss Sabba my borneo short-tail is often after-pub entertainment! She's taken to holding stock-still lately... put her in my lap, and she doesn't move a muscle for some 20 minutes!! Pass her to a friend, she curls up in their lap and freezes! Emotion: smile

fr0glet
The only time I feel completely confident handling snakes is ... to get the snakes out and play with them Emotion: wink

Hey, I'll confess to that too... Miss Sabba my borneo short-tail is often after-pub entertainment! She's taken to holding stock-still ... a muscle for some 20 minutes!! Pass her to a friend, she curls up in their lap and freezes! Emotion: smile

Glad I'm not the only one then Emotion: wink
What does it mean when they freeze anyway? My hoggie does that when I hold him sometimes. He stops flicking his tongue and just stays so still staring at me. Sometimes it un-nerves me LOL!
Chloe

"It's the easiest thing to live in a refuge from the world ... but it's the hardest thing to live in the world alone."
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Glad I'm not the only one then Emotion: wink What does it mean when they freeze anyway? My hoggie does that when I hold him sometimes. He stops flicking his tongue and just stays so still staring at me. Sometimes it un-nerves me LOL!

In Sabba's case, I think it means she's just not interested in attempting escape!! Sometimes she's so darn tame, I think she's more tame than my cats or dog!
fr0glet
"Mistress of Dragons" <> wrote in message

LOL! Chloe

LOL..If that's all I ever got blamed with I'd be doing good.

Well I'm not sure if I'd get away with blaming you for anything else ... you're too far away LOL!
Wishing you well with overcoming your anxiety about handling snakes. Emotion: smile

Thanks! I could always become an alcoholic then I'd have no fears ever handling them ... ROFL!
Chloe

"It's the easiest thing to live in a refuge from the world ... but it's the hardest thing to live in the world alone."
Can snakes sense if you are nervous when handling them? ... likely to get bitten if the snake senses I'm nervous?

Read the book The Naked Ape: A Zoologist's Study of the Human Animal by Desmond Morris. Fear is ... other animal on the planet) display very obvious physical symptoms of fear. They really don't vary from person to person.

That book is have been on my wish list for some time now ... one day Emotion: wink
You might have guessed I should be picking my new ... I'm gonna be a little nervous handling him at first.

I think that fear is healthy!

I totally agree! I would never become complacent and take for granted an animal's behaviour, particularly one that can inflict damage and pain ... yes I'm a wuss, so what Emotion: big smile
Whenever we're at an outreach event and I hand a snake to a child, I always say the same things... ... let it slither wherever it wants! Emotion: smile Hey, if it works for 6-year-olds it will work for you too! Emotion: big smile

You trying to tell me something? :-O Emotion: wink
Chloe

"It's the easiest thing to live in a refuge from the world ... but it's the hardest thing to live in the world alone."
I've been bitten twice by snakes, but the first time doesn't really count because it was by a three month old cali king in a petshop. He let out the most cutest little hiss and struck and it was more a case of "aww, look at the big, mean, little snake"
Second time it was by a Hog Island Boa which was a little smaller than an adult corn in the reptile haven. A guy from Singapore (who's a regular) asked Ben if he could take out the Hog Island Boa. He was holding her and I reached out to pet her. She saw my hand coming and intercepted it.

I was like "Did that snake just bite me?" It happened in the space of a second. Didn't hurt though it took about a week or two until the marks faded entirely.
She then proceeded to get really ***, striking at the guy's hair.
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