I gather that many folks on this group feel that no one should touch any dog without the owner's permission. Even if the dog is staked out in public and is begging for attention.
That just seems like cruel and inhuman punishment. To doglovers!

I guess I'm puzzled at the notion that some people with dogs that don't like people (or don't like to be touched by people) still stake them out in public. As well as the notion that it is impossible for a savvy dogperson to know what strange dog it's safe to touch.

Though I see the point of people being protective of their dogs, and feeling that strangers have no more right to pet them without permission then they do to kiss their children.
So, are there any circumstances where it's ok to touch a dog not your own?
EmilyS
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Though I see the point of people being protective of their dogs, and feeling that strangers have no more right ... to kiss their children. So, are there any circumstances where it's ok to touch a dog not your own? EmilyS

I don't find it difficult to ask if it's ok if I pet someone's dog. I haven't met anyone who's said no yet, although a few have said that their dog isn't interested in people. Since I always smell like our dogs, few dogs don't find me interesting!
I gather that many folks on this group feel that no one should touch any dog without the owner's permission. ... with dogs that don't like people (or don't like to be touched by people) still stake them out in public.

Well - I don't leave my dog "staked" in public anymore exactly because I thought it was unfair to the dog that people couldn't just let it relax comfortably. I don't like it, I don't think people should do it, I think its rude, but I don't think its "wrong" ( as in bad or evil or anything - merely an annoyance). Since I know people will do it I don't leave my dogs in that situation. Although the need to refrain irks me, I understand that people will bother my dogs if I leave them on a down stay on the sidewalk, so I don't do that.
BUT people also bother my dogs when they are in the car. Sorry. that's just wrong. I've found them sticking their hands into my car. That's bad, wrong, and someone should get their hand slapped. So now I've had to take steps to prevent people from being able to reach the dogs.
As well as the notion that it is impossible for a savvy dogperson to know what strange dog it's safe ... and feeling that strangers have no more right to pet them without permission then they do to kiss their children.

Actually I can't think of anything of mine I would be OK with somone playing with unasked. Around here we have "window washers" who wash your car windows unasked in the hopes that you will pay them for it. I don't like THAT either. If I park my bicycle on the public street, locked of course, I don't want to come back and find someone lifting it to deterimine its weight, spinning its wheels, squeezing the handbrakes etc. Obviously the bike doesn't mind, and assuming its still locked it isn't going anywhere but KEEP YER MITTS OFF MY BIKE!
So, are there any circumstances where it's ok to touch a dog not your own?

1. When the owner gives permission.
2. When necessary for the health or safety of the dog.

I'm sure there are other circumstances but those are the only ones that leap to my mind.
Diane Blackman
This may seem weird, but I don't generally touch any dogs, not even my own, except for health care and grooming. I treat them well and talk nicely to them, but I don't generally touch them. They are just not attractive to me in that way.
I would never touch a strange dog either, especially one that is tied up somewhere.
I gather that many folks on this group feel that no one should touch any dog without the owner's permission. Even if the dog is staked out in public and is begging for attention.

My reading of that thread was somewhat different.
In or on a private vehicle, petter beware. In or on a public area, owner beware.

Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
I gather that many folks on this group feel that ... is staked out in public and is begging for attention.

My reading of that thread was somewhat different. In or on a private vehicle, petter beware. In or on a public area, owner beware.

I would agree, this sounds like the legal and ethical split.
Yep. Burped. A few pats on her sides, she looks at you with her biggest goo-goo eyes, & buurp!

ha! i do the same thing to harriet, but i never thought of it as burping her. now i'll feel much better about the faceful of belchy dog breath!
Twice a day, every day. Once it got started, she decided it felt pretty good & that was the end of that story. We've never seen a dog do this before, but what the heck? It obviously makes her feel better.

yep, but it never occurred to me to connect it like that. brilliant!

shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette
1. When the owner gives permission. 2. When necessary for the health or safety of the dog. I'm sure there are other circumstances

I've been trying to think of other circumstances, but can't. The only one I can come up with is the scenario where you are in a dog park, playing with your dogs, and another dog joins the games. But, even there, one could argue that the owner gives implied permission by allowing his/her dog to do that.
All of which brings up the reverse question - When is it acceptable to allow your dog to approach or solicit attention from humans in public? I admit that if one of my dogs tries to join in on someone tossing a ball for their dogs in a dog park, I call my dog off.

Lynn K.
I admit that if one of my dogs tries to join in on someone tossing a ball for their dogs in a dog park, I call my dog off. Lynn K.

That's exactly what I do.
Gwen
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