A couple of weeks ago Solo had some mystery abdominal/hind end pain that the folks at the ER couldn't identify. This morning, Solo's vet/behaviorist took a look at him and noted a number of gait abnormalities that are subtle but definitely present, and she thinks he injured his left knee and knocked a lumbar disc out of place not a massive injury, but his left knee is slightly unstable and his right hind is a wee bit "lazy" every several strides when he walks.

It doesn't seem to bother him and he wants to run and play as always. I'm still not sure when this happened. He hasn't been in agility lately as we took the term off and nothing big happened recently around sheep, but he does run and jump as a matter of course so it could have happened anytime.

Anyway, he's supposed to get rest for a few weeks (no running or jumping that should be fun) and she wants me to put him on a glucosamine/chondroitin supplement. She suggested Cosequin, 1200 mg per day, but anything similar would work. Do any of you have favorite brands? Is liquid or powder form better? I'm thinking of ordering the equine Cosequin since the ingredients are the same and it tends to be cheaper. Sorry for the dumb questions, this is totally new for us and I have never paid much attention to glucosamine/chondroitin discussions in the past. Serves me right!

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Sorry for the dumb questions, this is totally new for us and I have never paid much attention to glucosamine/chondroitin discussions in the past. Serves me right!

Duncan was looking a little hitchy - not lame exactly, but he definitely wasn't moving right. The vet recommended glucosamine, and based on recommendations from my very excellent feed store people and from people on one of the mushing mailing lists I put him on Next Level. It's been about three weeks and not only is he moving better but his activity level is way up (oohh noo!), presumably at least in part because he's feeling better (although it also helps that the weather has cooled off).

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A couple of weeks ago Solo had some mystery abdominal/hind end pain that the folks at the ER couldn't identify. ... subtle but definitely present, and she thinks he injured his left knee and knocked a lumbar disc out of place

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Do any of you have favorite
brands? Is liquid or powder form better?

I might try the liquid after I'm done with the Spring Valley (Wal Mart) glucosamine/chondroitin tabs. But for now, I'm pretty happy with them. Orson has arthritis in at least his left hip (elbows weren't x-rayed), and he had trouble sitting and limped badly and often before I put him on it. Now he limps only occasionally, and only slightly. No problems sitting.

I found this chart detailing Consumer Reports' breakdown on ingredients, dosage, and cost:
http://www.sportsmed.buffalo.edu/info/glucosamine%20pills.html

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My very athletic dogs get big results, noticable, from visiting the veterinary chiropractor periodically. Started out a bit skeptical, but results are results. They also get glucosamine.
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Because of Solo's issues with strangers, I'd like to avoid a chiro for now since I suspect it would stress him out more than it's worth.

Melanie Lee Chang > Form ever follows function. Departments of Anthropology and Biology >
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I found this chart detailing Consumer Reports' breakdown on ingredients, dosage, and cost:
http://www.sportsmed.buffalo.edu/info/glucosamine%20pills.html

Cool thanks!

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Do any of you have favorite brands? Is liquid or powder form better?

We like Walgreens Glucosamine with MSM. The research I've read isn't all that positive about Chondroitin (sic). It's the Glucosamine HCL, 500 mg and both Tracy & Doodle eat the pills like treats. They both line up for their morning meds with great enthusiasm.
I haven't really noticed much difference for Tracy, but it seems to be helping Doodle. It doesn't hurt, at any rate.
Anyway, he's supposed to get rest for a few weeks (no running or jumping that should be fun) and ... totally new for us and I have never paid much attention to glucosamine/chondroitin discussions in the past. Serves me right!

A couple of different recommendations. For Cala's regular maintenance, I use Spring Valley double-strength. It has Glucosame and chondroitin, and since there are a couple of studies out there (and another being funded by the NIH) that indicate the combination may be disease modifying (i.e., may prevent changes, and also may actually heal damage), I have her on it even though she hadn't had a single injury till a couple of weeks ago.*

For Viva, who has arthritis in her front feet, I started with Spring Valley, but last fall was noticing a significant slow down in performance her top speed in AKC Jumpers was about 4.3 yards per second. So I moved to something stronger. Viva now gets VetriScience Glyco-Flex II double strength. It has glucosamine, chondroitin, MSM, and manganese. In addition I ad 1000 mg of Vitamin C once daily. Since being on this regimen, Viva's yps have increased to 5 yards per second! You can get glycoflex at www.kvvet.com.
*Cala had a very nasty fall off a dogwalk a couple of weeks ago, landed on her side so hard she bounced up in the air about 6 inches, and dislocated a rib. Luckily my acupuncturist was actually in the building that night and was able to slip the rib back into place. The next week she was better but her back was now out of place, so an acupuncture treatment fixed that up and now she's fine! I know that Solo has issues.

I wonder if you could find an acupuncturist who would be willing to let you just come hang out for several sessions so Solo can get comfy, perhaps while he/she is even treating someone else. I know my dogs wouldn't mind as long as the other person and dog weren't disruptive. A good acupuncturist can do wonders for little miscellaneous ouchies like he's got.
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