I'm teaching Roz to "stand" from a sit but she isn't cottoning on very well.
I get her to sit in front of me and ask her to stand and use a gesture (raising my left hand from waist height to my chest in a sweeping motion). She stays sitting as she doesn't know what I want, she is all attention and willing but just doesn't understand. I have used my right hand under her rear legs to get her to stand, while signalling and saying stand ( no force , she stands as soon as my hand is under her) but the touch seems to be too distracting and she loses focus for a second, even though I praise the "stand" it's lost on her.
I have tried holding a tug toy as a lure but she stays sitting as she doesn't know what I want so she chooses not to break the sit with a word she doesn't yet know.
I've tried doing it from the side in a similar fashion but with the same results, I don't use food to train and in any case food wouldn't be the solution here as her willingness and attention are fine, it's her understanding thats the problem.
Anyone got any ideas?
Thanks,
Paul.
I'm teaching Roz to "stand" from a sit but she isn't cottoning on very well. I get her to sit ... to betoo distracting and she loses focus for a second, even though I praise the "stand" it's lost on her.

At our very first puppy class, our trainer (who competes at top level obedience here in the UK) said that he never gave a command word until the dog was already performing the desired action. this saves the confusion and distraction that you talk about in your post. Handling the dog can also be a distraction, so that is to be avoided too.
I've worked on this with a clicker and will say she found it a little harder than sit or lie down, and I've been a little lazy with it & not kept it up, but if your dog knows the clicker, its ideal. Lure from a sit with some cheese/ tiny, tasty treat, the minute she starts to raise herself, click to mrk the behaviour & treat to reward it. Once perfected, you refrain from clicking until the dog has found a better position (such as a show stack), then work on holding the stand for a few minutes - though not too long cos it'll get boring for her.
Many people have a big aversion to rewarding with food, but dogs like it and understand it - and with clicker training, you work on linking one behaviour to another to another (chaining) so that its not as if your stuffing your dog like a slot machine.
Diana
I'm teaching Roz to "stand" from a sit but she isn't cottoning on very well. Anyone got any ideas?

Here's how I taught my first GSD ,Champ, to stand: Start with dog at your side, in a sit, facing in
the same direction as you.
Kneel down and
place one hand under dogs belly, near the upper
joint of the back leg and apply pressure upwards
while holding the leash in your other hand to prevent the dog from moving forward too much.
Issue the command to stand while gently giving
pressure foward and upward on the leash from the front. Praise as usual. Repeat until dog has it down
from a strictly verbal command.
After it's verbal only, I then began using
a hand signal. I would place my hand out palm down, fingers together and held level. Then draw your
hand towards the right in a sliding motion just
enough for the dog to clearly see what you're doing. Let me know if it works for you.
Terri
I'm teaching Roz to "stand" from a sit but she isn't cottoning on very well. I get her to sit ... the solution here as her willingness and attention are fine, it's her understanding thats the problem. Anyone got any ideas?

Hello Paul B,
hello fans,
Yes,
The way I teach the stand from sit is it is to tell the dog to come (slap my thighs and say "come") and then issue an immediate stay command with a hand signal as soon as the dog stands to starts coming over to me.
This easily gets the dog into a stand without any
manhandling or manipulating from the human. Without any pulling or coaxing trying to "place" the dog into position. We like to avoid this whenever possible.
My hand signal for stay is an outstretched hand in front of me. Then, don't ask me exactly how, but I then start slowly changing the hand signal from an outstretched hand (fingers up, palm facing dog) to where I rotate my hand (fingers down, palm still facing dog kind of like StarWars Jedi) and as I'm doing that, I work in the word "stand" and then, finally, just that sweeping Jedi Hand motion (how
appropriate, fans) becomes my "stand" hand signal.

Basically, you are using three other commands (which, hopefully, the dog already knows) to teach another command fairly easily.
So, basically, fans, you use a fake "come" command to teach the stand.
Very simple.
PS,
I do use food to train, and it makes teaching things like this quite simple.
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I'm teaching Roz to "stand" from a sit but she isn't cottoning on very well. I get her to sit ... to stand and use a gesture (raising my left hand from waist height to my chest in a sweeping motion).

What you are doing is actually reinforcing the Sit by raising her head to both your face and your hand signal. (Raising her head lowers her butt to the ground or keeps it there when she's already sitting.) Of the 8 ways I know to teach Stand, only 1, usually used to teach the Utility Stand, is taught facing the dog.
1. From heel position, treat in left hand, sweep your hand forwardfrom her nose to a foot in front of her nose, while also stepping forward on your left leg.
2. Similar to above, but face the dog's side, lure with your righthand while lightly pressing upwards on her belly with the left hand.
3. From heel position, step forward on left leg while sweeping lefthand forward, catching her leash between thumb and 1st finger.
4. Kneel facing dog's side. Hold nose targeted in place to treat inright hand while lifting gently from belly with left hand.
5. Stand facing dog's side. Target nose with treat in right handwhile sliding your left foot back under her belly to touch her back paws.
6. Stand over dog with her head between your knees and her bodybehind you. Hold her head steady and hook your right heel behind and under her belly.
7. Catch her in a stand, mark it with praise/reward, and touch all 4paws so she understands what the praise is for.
8. Face the sitting dog, food in your right hand, arm down at yourside. Sweep your right hand backwards along your side to draw her nose forward.
HTH.
Lynn K.