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My Labs do that too. The problem is that they usually plant their butts to the fence and dig for the joy of it. So we don't worry about it. (Besides, if they get out, they just come to the front porch and look confused..

When I first got MacKenzie, she got out of the fence a couple of times before I figured out that she was pushing on the bottom of the gate, and could open it just enough to be able to squeeze herself through.

I'd find out she was out because she would come scratch on the front door.

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A hotwire is generally more reliable.

But wouldn't the hotwire be something that could be touched by an unknowing human stranger? I like the idea of knowing that the wire only works on the one wearing the collar.

Usually if you're wearing shoes and only touch the hotwire, you don't feel a thing.
Now if you're not wearing shoes or if you stick your hand in a waterbucket...

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But wouldn't the hotwire be something that could be touched by an unknowing human stranger?

Generally not. For one thing, it's run inside the fence, about 9" off the ground, and strung on an insulator. For another thing a pet-grade hotwire is lower voltage than a livestock-grade hotwire. I've accidentally bumped up against a livestock-grade hotwire and while it was unpleasant it wasn't much more than unpleasant.

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A hotwire is generally more reliable.

But wouldn't the hotwire be something that could be touched by an unknowing human stranger? I like the idea of knowing that the wire only works on the one wearing the collar.

Pet-grade hotwires aren't that big a deal. They just sort of "tingle" a bit, even on wet skin.
I guess if you were barefoot, standing in a puddle, and were to grab it with both hands, it'd make your day. But just brushing up against one doesn't hurt.

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But wouldn't the hotwire be something that could be touched by an unknowing human stranger?

What's an unknowing human stranger doing inside my fence?
I like the idea of knowing that the wire only works on the one wearing the collar.

Usually if you're wearing shoes and only touch the hotwire, you don't feel a thing.

Heh. That's not been my experience.

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Hi.

Your question has been answered very well, but I've a question for you: why are you cross-posting to a non-existent group? Just curious.

Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
Your question has been answered very well, but I've a question for you: why are you cross-posting to a non-existent group? Just curious.

On Usenet, "non-existent" is at best an ephemeral quality. I bet it exists somewhere. It might exist on the server she uses. And she might be the only person who reads that newsgroup on her server. She could be posting to herself (but hey, don't we all?).
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Your question has been answered very well, but I've a question for you: why are you cross-posting to a non-existent group? Just curious.

Hi. Yes, I would like to thank everyone for the opinions. It gives me plenty to think about. I'm new to the rec.pets.dogs.* hierarchy, so I wasn't exactly sure which group to post my message to. I don't know what non-existent group you are referring to. Both rec.pets.dogs.behavior and rec.pets.dogs.training are available on my Newsfeeds.com server. Thanks again.

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Your question has been answered very well, but I've a question for you: why are you cross-posting to a non-existent group? Just curious.

Hi. Yes, I would like to thank everyone for the opinions. It gives me plenty to think about. I'm new to the rec.pets.dogs.* hierarchy, so I wasn't exactly sure which group to post my message to. I don't know what non-existent group you are referring to. Both rec.pets.dogs.behavior and rec.pets.dogs.training are available on my Newsfeeds.com server. Thanks again.

Suzette

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