http://www.nydailynews.com/news/local/story/137778p-122499c.html
In the version of this story that ran locally, the lawyer for the breed group said labeling tail docking as cruel was as silly as saying declawing cats is cruel.
I guess she doesn't realize that declawing *is* cruel. I hope that this man wins his case because it may open the door to similar rulings about whether declawing falls under state animal cruelty laws.
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I hope he wins too. I could never understand why these people think it appropriate to cut dog's ears and tails to fit some "standard." Animal mutilation definitely needs to be banned Emotion: sad
Lauren

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I hope he wins too. I could never understand why these people think it appropriate to cut dog's ears and tails to fit some "standard." Animal mutilation definitely needs to be banned Emotion: sad

I'm with you for non-sporting breeds (ie, Dobie, Rottie, etc), but after I saw an undocked Springer Spaniel after a day of hunting in the dense brush, I changed my mind about docking for sporting breeds. The poor boy's tail was beaten bloody, with tatters of skin hanging off. He was of course rushed to the vet, and ended up having his tail amputated because of the damage. Hunting dogs just get so into what they are doing that they don't notice that they are smacking their poor tails into shreds. I know, you'd think the pain would stop them, but it doesn't.
Orchid
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I hope he wins too. I could never understand why ... some "standard." Animal mutilation definitely needs to be banned Emotion: sad

I'm with you for non-sporting breeds (ie, Dobie, Rottie, etc), but after I saw an undocked Springer Spaniel after a ... they are smacking their poor tails into shreds. I know, you'd think the pain would stop them, but it doesn't.

I'd heard about this happening before. I guess in such a case, it's for the animal's own welfare. I wonder how often it happens to hunting dogs? Do you have any idea?

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I'd heard about this happening before. I guess in such a case, it's for the animal's own welfare. I wonder how often it happens to hunting dogs? Do you have any idea?

An undocked brush dog (spaniels, etc) will cause serious damage to its tail if allowed to hunt. Most statistics are from the UK, as the ability to dock has been seriously threatened there. You can find photos of tail damage here: http://www.cdb.org / WARNING THE PHOTOS ON THIS SITE ARE GRAPHIC.
That site also has a lot of very good information regarding the procedure, pain experienced by the puppies, and why it needs to be done. They also have a video of a docking procedure so you can, if you wish, see for yourself how little it affects the puppies.
Orchid
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/local/story/137778p-122499c.html In the version of this story that ran locally, the lawyer for the breed group said labeling tail docking ... his case because it may open the door to similar rulings about whether declawing falls under state animal cruelty laws.

He's not going to win because technically he can still compete with an undocked dog. He doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning, but nobody will ever admit to that.
-L.
Thanks for the information. I'll take your word on the video though Emotion: smile
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hiya ,
just to show the other side of the argument Emotion: smile
Anti-docking Alliance:
http://www.anti-dockingalliance.co.uk/page 9.htm
Lots of tail injuries also happen in dogs that are kennelled including greyhounds.
Alison
Pro-docking : http://www.cdb.org /
Interesting. I wonder what their policies are on declawing?
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