Yesterday a boarding customer, who moved to this area from overseas, brought her dog, with intact tail, the first I have ever seen of this breed. I have to say, it was a Godawful tail curled tight (1 1/2 or even 1 3/4 loops) and with straggly long hairs.
This led me to wonder. In breed clubs where docking is no longer universal, what do people do about tails? Are standards for tails incorporated into the breed standard? Are they ignored and allowed to be whatever they will? I'm curious.
Amy Dahl
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Yesterday a boarding customer, who moved to this area from overseas, brought her dog, with intact tail, the first I ... to say, it was a Godawful tail curled tight (1 1/2 or even 1 3/4 loops) and with straggly long hairs.

What breed? Curious because an undocked Rottie has become a fairly recent regular at the dog park.
Suja
Yesterday a boarding customer, who moved to this area from overseas, brought her dog, with intact tail, the first I ... standards for tails incorporated into the breed standard? Are they ignored and allowed to be whatever they will? I'm curious.

For rottweilers the ADRK has already written a tail standard for the FCI. The tail should be a natural extension of the topline and may be carried slightly up when excited, or hanging. Kinked or ring tails are eliminating faults.
Here are some drawings used by ADRK to demonstrate the correct tail:

http://www.rottweiler-fleige.de/RW-Lehrtafeln/RW-Rutenhaltung/rw-rutenhaltung.html

We left the tails on our most recent litter and will no longer be docking. Here's one of them at five weeks with correct tail set:


Liz
Liz & the rottie riot squad
Brutus, Cecil, Case, Dizzy
and the grrls, Janni, Chrome, Elektra & Elfed
http://www.ausbreitung.com
Yesterday a boarding customer, who moved to this area from ... or even 1 3/4 loops) and with straggly long hairs.

What breed? Curious because an undocked Rottie has become a fairly recent regular at the dog park.

There's an undocked Rottie that goes herding where I used to go. Lethal and long, that tail was.
Shelly & The Boys
For rottweilers the ADRK has already written a tail standard for the FCI. The tail should be a natural extension of the topline and may be carried slightly up when excited, or hanging. Kinked or ring tails are eliminating faults.

Thanks Liz. This was a Rottie, in fact, and I wondered if many generations of cropping (i.e. breeding without regard to tail) had led to a breed-wide reversion to ugly tails. Sounds as though she would have been DQ'd...also sounds like a tough deal for those whose lines are strong in other areas but have tightly curled tails.
Amy Dahl
Thanks Liz. This was a Rottie, in fact, and I wondered if many generations of cropping (i.e. breeding without regard ... DQ'd...also sounds like a tough deal for those whose lines are strong in other areas but have tightly curled tails.

There have been a couple of otherwise nice dogs DQ'd for kinks recently, however the curled tails don't seem to show up all that often. Long bob tails are being DQ'd as well by some judges, i.e. tails that are shorter than the average tail, not a full bob, but sort of a 3/4 tail. IMO they should put the length in the standard if they're going to DQ for length.
I know I was worried about my first tailed litter - having never seen puppy tails grow I had no idea how they would turn out Emotion: smile Now that they're here I can't think why I ever cut them off in the first place - watching the first tail wag was pretty neat.
And yes, rottie tails can be nasty whip like things if they catch you wrong, but the puppies we kept seem to be pretty good about knowing where their tails are and what they're hitting. We have two young children and neither one has had a problem with the tails hitting them. The pups don't sweep things off coffee tables either - it's a hanging tail. Besides, if you leave stuff around on a coffee table in front of a rottweiler, they're most apt to try and eat it first rather than sweep it off with their tails
Liz
Liz & the rottie riot squad
Brutus, Cecil, Case, Dizzy
and the grrls, Janni, Chrome, Elektra & Elfed
http://www.ausbreitung.com
Yesterday a boarding customer, who moved to this area from overseas, brought her dog, with intact tail, the first I ... tails incorporated into the breed standard? Are they ignored and allowed to be whatever they will? I'm curious. Amy Dahl

The UK kennel club wrote in new standards for all trad.. docked breeds.. check out any you like from here:
http://www.the-kennel-club.org.uk/discoverdogs
Diana
We left the tails on our most recent litter and will no longer be docking. Here's one of them at five weeks with correct tail set:

Sorry to jump in on this conversation but i have a quick question to ask. Is there any reason other then looks that they dock tails? We had a boxer when i was little and i always wondered why they do it
Cin
We left the tails on our most recent litter and ... one of them at five weeks with correct tail set:

Sorry to jump in on this conversation but i have a quick question to ask. Is there any reason other then looks that they dock tails? We had a boxer when i was little and i always wondered why they do it

There were certainly historic reasons for docking various breeds, but many of those no longer apply. Docking is primarily cosmetic in this day and age.
Liz
Liz & the rottie riot squad
Brutus, Cecil, Case, Dizzy
and the grrls, Janni, Chrome, Elektra & Elfed
http://www.ausbreitung.com
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