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Those tent things are cool...several years ago when the Elements first came
out, a friend bought one that came with the "camping package" a tent that
attached to the rear of it.
On of my favorite things about the Element is the excellent car-type gas
mileage
that it gets (I like the Scion's too, but I don't think they would be large
enough). <<
I always look with great interest at how others have their dog vehicles set up. I think you are correct about the Scion. If, notice NOT WHEN, I have to replace Vannie, The Mighty Dog Mobile II, I'll be seriously looking at the Element. I don't need no stinkin' back seats! Right now I have a vehicle that can carry seven adults and it is a scramble to carry one other human!
Beth
I always look with great interest at how others have their dog vehicles set up. I think you are correct ... now I have a vehicle that can carry seven adults and it is a scramble to carry one other human!

Well, I could do a mini-van dog set-up very easily. I don't have children and
I very rarely carry another passenger. It would be nice to have room for
2 passengers, though that way road trips would be more fun. There's alwaysthe
problem of less room for dogs than humans in that case. With an Element, I think it would be easy to carry 2 extra people, 2 crates, and one loose dog if
neccessary.
Shelly & The Boys
Those tent things are cool...several years ago when the Elements first came out, a friend bought one that came with ... now I have a vehicle that can carry seven adults and it is a scramble to carry one other human![/nq]Well we have Soren and as we've gotten pretty darn attached to him, we gotta have some sort of middle row seat. Our old van and Vannie's namesake, The Mighty Dog Mobile, (a '91 Olds Silhouette) had individual seats (no bench seats) which one could set up in any configuration. This was a great thing. If you put all the seats in, there were three in the middle and two in the rear. Most the time we set up one seat in the middle row (usually on the far right since TMDM had the sliding door on that side).

Having only one seat in the middle row was extremely convenient, especially when hauling furniture or building supplies, not to mention roomy. Now that we are stuck with Vota & her bench seats, we don't have nearly as much flexibility. If I was getting another van, I would search far and wide for another one with individual seats.
Chris and her smoothies
Pablo & Lucy
It has been done. Estella, the beloved silver Integra, is gone. In her place is Animal, the obnoxiously orange Element.

I don't have any commercial interest in this product... but we used one of these rear-mounted swing-away cargo pods when we moved our dogs cross country last summer.
http://www.stowaway2.com/products.asp
There are other brands on the market too.
IMO much easier than dealing with a tow-trailer or a roof-mounted carrier.
FurPaw

"Here we go round the prickly pear
At five o'clock in the morning."
- T. S. Eliot
To reply, unleash the dog
we have Soren and as we've gotten pretty darn attached to him, we gotta

have some sort of middle row seat. Our old van and Vannie's namesake, The
Mighty Dog Mobile, (a '91 Olds Silhouette) had individual seats (no bench
seats) which one could set up in any configuration. This was a great thing.
If you put all the seats in, there were three in the middle and two in the
rear. <<
I love that about Vannie. If I take the majority of my training equipment out, muck out the front passenger seat, rearrange crates and put in the skinny middle row seat I can take three adults, one GSD, one flat coat and one corgi riding in crates. And all our junk fits too. And one of my best buddies brings enough junk that you would think she was travelling for month, not half a day or so.
Beth
I don't have any commercial interest in this product... but we used one of these rear-mounted swing-away cargo pods when we moved our dogs cross country last summer.
Those look really cool, but they won't be big enough. I figure I'll rent one of the medium-sized U-Haul trailers. There isn't a lot of room for my stuff with the dogs crated in the back of the E. Plenty for theirs though!

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I used to own a lovely red '68 Beetle with flared fenders and no reverse gear. I adored that thing anyway.

I had a '66 with a factory sunroof. It had a bigger engine than the year before and the year after and was mega reliable. The only downside was its 6 volt electrical system.

Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
I always look with great interest at how others have their dog vehicles set up. I think you are correct ... now I have a vehicle that can carry seven adults and it is a scramble to carry one other human!

With my Windstar, I removed the rear bench seat and one of the centre passenger seats. Rubbermaid containers full of dog and human gear can be quickly swapped out depending upon the activity I'm heading to, as can various shade tents, camping gear, and xpens. Mandatory gear includes a wire crate to hold 2 dogs, a water container, and a Rubbermaid drawer set - all of which can be quickly removed so the dogs and I can sleep in the van. This is the picture I posted earlier:

For this past weekend's Alberta/NWT agility regionals, I added a shade tent, a container of wet weather clothes, and not much else. I decided that the dogs and I would bunk at a cheap HoJo since it was a pretty important trial.
All I need now to make my set-up perfect is a tent that'll attach to a minivan side sliding door, but after the thread a few weeks ago, it sounds like that'll never happen unless I do something really custom.

Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
The Element would be my preferred Field-Dawg car, but I also have to be able to haul kids from place to place.

I dunno if you've heard about the weather we're having here, but my minivan traction control has gotten me out of some really mucky situations on the rural roads I frequent.
I resisted the soccermomvan darkside for a long time, but had to get practical, especially since at the time I had 3 largish dogs.
It's pretty cool that there are so many choices these days to cover everybody's unique needs.

Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
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