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We had a letter to the editer in our local paper a couple of weeks ago. The auther had called ... dog is chained up outside 24/7 The dog is in my town. I see pass by it all the time.

Aren't you in VA?
AC went and checked it out. What they found is this. 1) The dog had food and water 2) He ... is clean. According to the auther, AC never spoke to the owners, because what they found is not considered crule.

In VA the owners were meeting the law, which covers shelter, sufficient food and water and a current rabies vaccine. If the area was clean that speaks volumes to me. There are some people that don't believe that dogs belong in the house. But someone here was taking the time and trouble to keep the area clean and there are too many people that don't clean up the dog's area.
The Auther was upset because the dog is left ouside in all kinds of weather. We had one heck of ... does for it's spirt. How dogs need company. How they also feel the heat and the cold and get uncomfortable.

Did the dog have shade during the summer? My neighbor has a dog that prefers to be outside most of the time, including 100 degree days.
AC answer was No laws were being broke, they can't say or do a thing. How do you all feel ... you would be comfortable with? Do you think it would lead to our rights being stepped on as dogs owners?

I may be a little bit sensitive about this sort of thing right now since one of my neighbors has decided that I'm not taking good enough care of one of my cats. (And that is a loong story with some old bat that doesn't understand about things like DON'T FEED MY CAT HE NEEDS SPECIAL FOOD OR HE WILL BLOCK!) But if some busy body called AC and they told me I wasn't taking good enough care of one of my animals I would want them to prove it.
Beth
Marcel referred to Animal Cops as cops who failed

I don't think that's what he meant, though I could have misunderstood. AC usually means "animal control," not Animal Cops (isn't that a show on Animal Planet?). For what it's worth, I've never, ever heard of animal control officers referred to as failed cops.

Shelly (Warning: see label for details)
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Yes I'm in VA and I'm sure the owner is meeting all the laws. Yes the dog has shade and a dog house. Let me say this, No shade takes care of
110 heat index with 98% humidity. It was horrible.

The dog looks down right depressed, but I do NOT go past the house at night. for all I know the dog is taken in when the owners come home from work.
I reconized the dog from the letter to the news paper. I thought ya that pup does not look happy, but he does look taken care of.

I thought the auther of the letter had a point. AC could have spoke to owners, found out if the dog is walked, does he get taken in, does he get any time off the chain? If not, maybe a few friendly pointer would help.
I thought the auther of the letter had a point. AC could have spoke to owners, found out if the dog is walked, does he get taken in, does he get any time off the chain? If not, maybe a few friendly pointer would help.

I'm guessing that it is wasted effort, because they could spend their time preaching about how dogs should be kept, and the recipient of the lecture is absolutely at liberty to ignore all of it. There isn't anything anyone could do about it, because they aren't breaking the laws. In most parts of the country, AC is really overburdened, and I doubt they have the time or the resources to do something like this, where the returns are bound to be really low.
There is someone down the street from me who used to walk her dog every day. The dog was quite old, couldn't see or hear, and from talking to the owner, it was clear that they cared for the dog. Later, I came to find out from their neighbor that this dog was kept out back, tied to a tree. They had called AC when they first moved in and saw the dog, but was informed that the dog's living conditions were adequate per law, and there is nothing more they can do for the dog.
Suja
I thought the auther of the letter had a point. ... chain? If not, maybe a few friendly pointer would help.

I'm guessing that it is wasted effort, because they could spend their time preaching about how dogs should be kept, ... have the time or the resources to do something like this, where the returns are bound to be really low.

My only problem with this first paragraph is the statement, "they could spend their time preaching about how dogs should be kept," since they are a government official, I think they should reserve the word 'should' for the level of care the law says dogs should be provided with. I wouldn't have a problem with them recommending their personal opinion that the dog be provided with a higher level of care, but if they run around saying you should do this, it better be according to the law. If it were the opinion of the government that dogs should be provided a higher level of care than being chained to a tree with food, water and shelter, they would make laws against it. I don't think you intended it that way, it just strikes a bad chord in my head.
Shelly
Marcel said " People already look down enough on AC (cops who fail) that AC stepping in etc etc etc"
I took it to mean just what he said ..Of course IMO it is not fair to say in every instance and I don't think he was??? but in one horse towns I have lived in and do live in they get people that wanna wear a uniform and a badge and walk around like a big shot.

Be Free,
Judy
Shelly Marcel said " People already look down enough on AC (cops who fail) that AC stepping in etc etc ... live in they get people that wanna wear a uniform and a badge and walk around like a big shot.

Maybe he'll clarify. I watched an episode of Animal Cops last night. I don't know if it was representative of the series, but ugh. If that's what Marcel was referring to, I can see why he'd characterize them as failed police. I don't think that's a show I'll be watching very often.
That said, the folks on Animal Cops are nothing* like any animal control officers I've ever encountered in real life. And I've lived most of my life in small and medium sized towns. The smaller towns didn't even *have animal control. The larger ones had city shelters, but the animal control officers didn't wear spiffy uniforms or ride around in "police-type" cars. ACOs did most of the administrative stuff. The folks out on the street were basically dog catchers. They went out to collect strays and check on complaints, but they weren't any kind of "cops".

Shelly (Warning: see label for details)
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http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)
Maybe he'll clarify. I watched an episode of Animal Cops last night. I don't know if it was representative of the series, but ugh.

A friend of mine goes to Westminster almost yearly (as in shows dogs, not spectating). I won't tell the story because I don't remember it all and will mangle it, but apparently the NYC Animal Cops can be real ignorant jerks. They were swaggering around at Westminster demanding the dogs be let out of their crates or people would be "fined" or something like that, because the dogs were "in distress." Threatening to cite people. It was one of the woman officers that's seen on TV. I think it only happened one year but this person was just infuriated.

Our dog catchers are ignorant SOBs but they don't swagger around in uniforms. I got a visit from one for the first time this summer because of my "barking dogs." At that time, every single house on my side of the street had dogs who were kept outside all the time and barked all the time EXCEPT mine. But oh no, I had to be cited with a "warning only" because somebody complained about ME. No need to provide proof, if you complain about a neighbor's dog here, they get an automatic warning.

The AC yahoo's suggestion to keep my dogs from barking? (which they weren't anyway), a MUZZLE. Like a muzzle is going to stop a dog from vocalizing unless it's one of those really restrictive cloth ones that should only be used under supervision... His other suggestion was a "shock collar." Not even a bark collar but a regular electric collar. Sigh...
Maybe he'll clarify. I watched an episode of Animal Cops last night. I don't know if it was representative of the series, but ugh.

A friend of mine goes to Westminster almost yearly (as in shows dogs, not spectating). I won't tell the story ... under supervision... His other suggestion was a "shock collar." Not even a bark collar but a regular electric collar. Sigh...

After reading these shining examples of stupidity I began to wonder at how much training animal control officers actually get. Can anyone tell me? Are the educated about dogs and cats in any way or are they just taught the laws and regulations? Can any yahoo study the code book and get a job in AC or is their some formal animal education required? I would hope the latter but I've got to wonder if it's the former after some of the stories I've heard.

Les Hilliard & Nikki the Super Shih-Tzu
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