Hi,
in a few weeks time my wife and I will collect a Border Collie puppy whom we plan to raise on a vegetarian diet.
We know enough to know that this is safe and healthy, but would appreciate advice on details.
So far we are planning to feed our puppy:
vegetarian burger/mince/sausage (made from soya or mushroom), for protein + potatoes or biscuit, for carbohydrate
+ other vegetables, e.g. carrot, peas, broccoli, for vitamins/variety + cow's milk, for protein and calcium
Advice would be very welcome on:
1) whether this sort of diet would have serious holes in it or not,
2) any vegetarian purpose-packaged dog food suitable for puppies, whethercomplete-food or otherwise (preferably avoiding anything manufactured by IAMS because of their involvement in animal experiments)

Many thanks!
Chris
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I would definitely say DO NOT DO IT!
Although a domestic dog is very much an omnivore, they truly need the actual meat protein. Their system CANNOT break down plant protein for the amount that they need.
Their digestive system is shorter. The pH levels are different in key areas needed to digest the plant matter and absorb the plant protein.

I am not sure what is available in the UK. There are several kibble or prepackaged mixes available in the US that many "experiment sensitive" people use.
This link may help you get started. Click on the Dog feeding info. Pretty good site.
http://www.bowchow.com /
I would definitely say DO NOT DO IT! Although a domestic dog is very much an omnivore, they truly need the actual meat protein. Their system CANNOT break down plant protein for the amount that they need.

The Vegetarian Society tell me otherwise (especially with regard to cereals), also that beans etc. (and fibrous vegetables) can be made more digestible by boiling for a little longer than is usual for humans.
Their digestive system is shorter. The pH levels are different in key areas needed to digest the plant matter and ... sensitive" people use. This link may help you get started. Click on the Dog feeding info. Pretty good site. http://www.bowchow.com /

Lots of info there - thanks!
I've since also found .

Cheers,
Chris
Sorry but I totally disagree. I believe, even though the domestic canine is much more flexible with 'todays humans', I do not believe they are capable of thriving on a vegetarian diet. They are carnivores. They may survive and may even have the energy levels for an active lifestyle but a true worker (like a Border Collie) needs animal protein. If you want to have a pet on a veggie diet, then get a bird!
Hi, in a few weeks time my wife and I will collect a Border Collie puppy whom we plan to raise on a vegetarian diet.

..Why? Feeding a vegetarian diet to a dog is as inappropriate as feeding corn to a whale.
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Sorry but I totally disagree. I believe, even though the domestic canine is much more flexible with 'todays humans', I ... Border Collie) needs animal protein. If you want to have a pet on a veggie diet, then get a bird!

I was reading about the possibility of raisins and grapes being toxic to dogs and the website also included, onions, garlic and BROCCOLI, potato peelings and a green-ish tinged potato to be potentially harmful as well.

K9Care is right. Dogs are carnivores. They need their protein. Border Collies are extremely active dogs and I can't see how a veggie diet will work. My dog (another working breed) is very active and eats constantly throughout the day, meat products and kibble, and I think he'd just get too skinny without the meat.
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K9Care is right. Dogs are carnivores. They need their protein.

I think it can be done but that it's very difficult and that the consequences of getting it wrong are pretty dire for the dog. Many years back I knew someone who put his dog on a vegetarian diet and the dog went blind from malnutrition. It seems to me that if someone's really set on not feeding a dog meat they probably shouldn't get the dog. And I'm speaking as someone who's largely vegetarian, myself.
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But why do you believe that? It is a fact that many dogs thrive on a vegetarian diet.
Most people would call dogs "omnivores", but if an argument is based on what is "natural", one would end up being against feeding them cooked food, having them as pets, or indeed domesticating them or working them at all.

Not all energy comes from protein - much should come from carbohydrates and fats - but many plant products contain digestible proteins, although it may be true that supplements are necessary, I'm not sure.

Chris
Sorry but I totally disagree. I believe, even though the ... a pet on a veggie diet, then get a bird!

I was reading about the possibility of raisins and grapes being toxic to dogs and the website also included, onions, garlic and BROCCOLI, potato peelings and a green-ish tinged potato to be potentially harmful as well. K9Care is right. Dogs are carnivores.

Carnivore means needing to eat wholly or mainly meat.
They need their protein.

They certainly do, but protein does not only come from meat.
Border Collies are extremely active dogs and I can't see how a veggie diet will work.

I have been reading up on it and there seems to be quite a bit of knowledge about it.
My dog (another working breed) is very active and eats constantly throughout the day, meat products and kibble, and I think he'd just get too skinny without the meat.

That's what some people think about vegetarian humans too, but it isn't true! :-)
Chris
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