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http://www.maxshouse.com/feline nutrition.htm#Dry Food vs Canned Food. Which is reall

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Before you tell other people to read stuff you should read it for evidence to prevent it from being used against you. Note it says to be used for information to help in your cats health program. It doesn't say stop here it's the bomb, the answer, the whole kit and caboodle. It looks like you stopped there and are not really researching further into your cats own health.
Shadow Walker
Mine does and I do not see my cats as ... because the canned food is too wet. Thus causing diarrhea.

You could do what I do, since Hodge has the same problem (constipation from dry, diarrhea from wet) feed ... got a clean bill of health a couple weeks ago, and he seems to be doing well on this diet.

Thanks for the info. I give canned as a treat every so often it is also used just to make sure everything is going through. =) I have discussed the canned food vs. dry with my vet, (I use a good sized clinic that has three vets on staff) and as a whole canned is not for mine. We use it for sick cats, hair ball problems but overall it's just really doesn't fit into my cats dietary needs. I also give my cats supplements due to my one cats heart murmur, she gets extra taurine.
Thank you.
Shadow Walker
Just to add onto my other message I have no problems with canned being used in moderation with dry, my problem is when some believe it is the only way and they do not look at the other factors involved. Thank you very much for your information. It is useful.
Shadow Walker
Actually, your cats' health should take precedence over yourconvenience.

Mine does and I do not see my cats as being healthy when they cry in pain because the canned ... about that. Wingtips and other things. My cats won't touch raw meat. They like their dry and the occasional canned.

but also I am convinced that the That's hardy the case. In fact, its the complete opposite. Here's why:

http://maxshouse.com/feline nutrition.htm#Dry Food vs Canned Food. Which is reall

Sure was! You said enough to prove you're and utter idiot and don't know anything about feline nutrition and to cast serious doubt that you're capable of learning.
Btw, appropriate screen name "Shadow" - because you're certainly in the dark about feline nutrition! LOL!
I won't waste my time commenting on all your other ignorant, misinformed/uninformed and erroneous nonsense. I'll simply point out that you, and apparently your vet, don't even understand the very basics of feline nutrition - such as how to compare nutrient values between canned and dry food - which seriously discounts you and your vet's credibility.
I have learned through
experience with the vet that canned is not as good as you claim. It'sgot less of everything and more fat.

Do you understand the concept of "dry matter basis"? I suggest you learn so you don't continue to make an utter fool of yourself. After you learn, explain it to your vet! LOL!
Feline nutrition 101: Canned food contains more* protein and other nutrients and usually *less* fat than equal quality dry food. Btw, cats utilize fat *better than carbohydrates. The carbohydrates in dry food are what makes cats fat - not the fat content of the food.

That's enough for now, I don't think you could absorb much more than that at one time.
Mine does and I do not see my cats as ... because the canned food is too wet. Thus causing diarrhea.

You could do what I do, since Hodge has the same problem (constipation from dry, diarrhea from wet) feed ... got a clean bill of health a couple weeks ago, and he seems to be doing well on this diet.

I agree. I was a proponent of dry only for a long while, and my cats did just fine on it (no extra weight, great health, no tartar or cavities, shining eyes, and coat, etc.), but after Bandit hit 15 my vet said her creatinin and BUN levels were creeping up a bit and she suggested adding the canned so Bandit would get more fluids into her system.

It was hard to get them to start eating the canned after all that time on dry, but, with patience, they have now developed a taste for it. They still get their dry crunchies too, so they're getting both as a compromise between their favorite and what's good for them. I'm just trying to gradually lessen the amount of dry and increase the amount of canned.

I know some feel that only canned is good for them, and I'm sure they're correct, but you have to balance that with the disadvantages of an abrupt change in diet and with whether or not your cat will eat it. Even a starving cat can not immediately be given a good, high caloric food without drastic effects to his/her system (vomiting, diahrrea, etc.). I think the change must be gradual both for the cats likes/dislikes and to cause the least short-term damage to their systems.
Hugs,
CatNipped
You could do what I do, since Hodge has the same problem (constipation from dry, diarrhea from wet) feed ... got a clean bill of health a couple weeks ago, and he seems to be doing well on this diet.

I split a can/pouch between my two for breakfast and then give them dry during the day. They're thriving on it, according to my vet. In fact, Peaches is over-thriving and I've had to switch to diet dry. I tried giving them each a can/pouch for breakfast and they didn't finish it. I previously had a cat who refused to eat dry. She wouldn't even sniff it. It simply didn't exist for her. She'd sit there and watch the other cats chow down on it with this puzzled expression on her face. So I fed everyone canned, since one of the cats would overeat on dry. The cat that wouldn't eat dry was the only one that had healthy teeth that never had to be cleaned. The dry food fanatics all had problems.
I know some feel that only canned is good for them, and I'm sure they're correct, but you have to balance that with the disadvantages of an abrupt change in diet and with whether or not your cat will eat it.

Absolutely. It doesn't matter how perfectly formulated a diet is if the cat won't eat it.
No diet should be changed abruptly - even from one brand to a different brand of the same type of food.
Its often difficult to change textures because a cat's texture preference is very strongly influenced by the type of food that the cat was feed when she was a kitten. Unfortunately, most shelters don't have the funds or help to feed canned food so most cats develop a strong - and sometimes immovable preference for dry food.
I also try to accustom all kittens and young cats to canned food because it makes switching the cat to a prescription diet easier if the need arises later in life. The worst time to try to change textures or even brands is when a cat is sick and that's exactly when most people are forced to change their cats' diets.
Phil
Its often difficult to change textures because a cat's texture preference is very strongly influenced by the type of food ... or help to feed canned food so most cats develop a strong - and sometimes immovable preference for dry food.

Good idea to get them used to it as a kitten. However, a lot of vets are still recommending to owners to feed dry because they were taught that that was better for their teeth. The facts still haven't filtered down to all vets out there yet, so lots of kittens are still started out on dry.

And yeah, it's hard for a shelter, struggling just to keep its doors open and feed the animals in its overflowing cages, to provide the best food. Along those lines, Phil, do you know if Fancy Feast and the other grocery store brands who've improved their formulas are planning to kick up their prices too? If so, then we're in the same spot as before, but if not that should force the premium brands to come down in price - whoohoo!

Hugs,
CatNipped
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