I have a 20L tank with my Curley Joe(Curley Tail Lizard) set up pretty well I think but I think adding a Water Fall at one end would be nice. I am not really sure if he drinks from the small pool I keep filled with fresh bottled water or he gets his moisture from the terranium moss I keep around it. I have never seen him at the water but have noticed he does sit on the freshly spayed moss. I have that end covered with plexiglass but the humidity never gets above 40%.

I have seen the different sized waterfall kits but I don't know if the water would be contained to that area or would end up soaking the whole tank. I would hate to have to empty the whole thing and start over as this would stress him for sure. Timmed little guy is just an excitable boy. I would even consider getting him a 20High if that would be better suited. I have also seen the drip tanks but I am not sure how they work or what else to do.I have a hard time seeing him actually do much of anything as he stays burried most of the time.

He also seems to want OUT when he appears to climb the walls of his home and wonder if he is as happy as I could make him. He has heat rock-under tank heater-tree to climb-cave to go into but I think cricket stragles hide there. I have background of outside pictured paper but i don't think he is fooled.

Anyone with some advice?
Thanks
Proctor
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Anyone with some advice? Thanks Proctor

Yep!
Go to just about any department store (preferably one having a sale) and buy an ordinary tabletop fountain. You can find some of them for around $15 on sale. If the bottom half of the fountain is too small, you can take the top half and the pump and put it in a larger bowl. Then there is a large enough pool to drinkfrom/bathe in.
My curlytails have never had a problem finding their water, and I just use a cereal bowl half buried in the substrate.
I still think you should buy another one. I have lately noticed that my female (the smaller of the sexes) stays buried most of the time, but the males (the larger ones) are almost always out.
Good luck,
-Ryan
Anyone with some advice? Thanks Proctor

Yep! Go to just about any department store (preferably one having a sale) andbuy an ordinary tabletop fountain. You can ... in their own seperate tanks so it gets a bit crowded not to mention the work cleaning the rodents corner:)

Proctor
Thanks for the tip Ryan. It never occured to me to look for any device like you mention. I couldn't ... their own seperate tanks so it gets a bit crowded not to mention the work cleaning the rodents corner:) Proctor

Hey man, give the snake food to the snakes and then you'd have more room for reptiles!
Emotion: wink
Cindy
Thanks for the tip Ryan. It never occured to me ... not to mention the work cleaning the rodents corner:) Proctor

Hey man, give the snake food to the snakes and then you'd have more roomfor reptiles! Emotion: wink CindyHi Cindy.
This whole ordeal sprouted from numerous visits to the mall with three children ages 6,7 and 13. After the rounds ending up at the pet store and after counltess begging ordeals to allow a pet three Syrians were brought home. Finding out the hard way each needed it's own cage and one female being placed in the wrong cage with a male resulted in 100 gallons of hampsters(10G tank for each). Needless to go over an old store I am now the primary care giver of the five that are left.

Life will go on for these roden family members as they are short lived at a three year life span. I since have purchased the CT for the now 10 year old who only wanted a pet he could 'hold' and so goes the same story one more time. The American Tod was captured from a field across the street by the youngest and now lives on past his hybernation period which I am sure the fat guy is happy with. So goes the life of a hopeless animal lover which I am sure has not told his last tail curley or otherwise:)
Proctor
Hey man, give the snake food to the snakes and then you'd have more room for reptiles! Emotion: wink Cindy

Hi Cindy. This whole ordeal sprouted from numerous visits to the mall with three children ages 6,7 and 13. After ... life of a hopeless animal lover which I am sure has not told his last tail curley or otherwise:) Proctor

Hehe I understand. There's a garter snake den under an old bunkhouse where we used to live in MT. Brown and green ones and LOTS of red/black/yellow ones. I wanted to keep one or two red ones, and ended up with a tankful to please the kids. We turned a bunch of them loose that year, and the rest the next year. I should have kept one or two, but was feeling overwhelmed about moving back to TX.
Cindy
Hi Cindy. This whole ordeal sprouted from numerous visits to ... has not told his last tail curley or otherwise:) Proctor

Hehe I understand. There's a garter snake den under an old bunkhousewhere we used to live in MT. Brown and ... the next year. I should have kept one or two, but was feeling overwhelmed about moving back to TX. Cindy

I have never seen any other color garder snake other than black and green. I never even knew there were anyother colors. We would see plenty on our way to school some roadkill others birdkill. We also caught our share of catch and release never really knowing what to do with them after we scared the girls:) Plenty of pets back then including one I have never seen since in any pet store. We were told it was a horned toad if that was even the correct name. The American Toad was all about which we called a 'Hop Toad' only to be laughed at by the name when I mentioned it to a Petco guy a while back. Geeze I'm reliving my youth here...
Proctor
I have never seen any other color garder snake other than black and green. I never even knew there were anyother colors.

There are some semi-cool looking "albino" garter snakes at Petco.

fr0glet
I have never seen any other color garder snake other than black and green. I never even knew there were anyother colors.

There are some semi-cool looking "albino" garter snakes at Petco. fr0glet

I think I want to wait for a new pet store to open any time right in my neighborhood. I have been worried about Petco and the lack of live food lately. I can't find waxworms anywhere. The mealworms are extremely small and many are dead. I have to call first to make sure there are even crickets and never more than a dozen at a time are in stock or there are only large that are just too big for Curley. I often wonder why there are not more of a variety of other creatures like grasshoppers. What about Earwiggs or termites? There just HAS to be hundreds of other bugs to get involved with..Right?
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