after having the appraisal for the real fencing coming out at over $11,000, we decided to put up an invisible fence, just until we can save some cash for the real one. after we put up the real fence, the invisible one will probably remain as a "fail safe" to keep the dogs off the real fence. yes, i'm aware of most of the cons, i've always been against them myself, until i talked to a lot of people who have them, and had the invisible fence trainer come out to meet the dogs. i'll only be letting them out when i'm home and can keep a direct eye on them, and we've discussed it with all of the neighbors, and they've committed to containing their dogs, so they won't come into my yard unless invited.
anyway, we had it installed outside today, and started the indoor part of training. we decided to put the training fence on the stairway, since the cats like to hang out up there and the dogs aren't allowed to go up. we put up a baby gate just past the invisible barrier, so that they can't go through it, even if they want to. i tried the collar on myself before we let the dogs try it, and while it is uncomfortable, it's not painful, and i'm comfortable with the dogs wearing it.
we thought Manu would require a higher setting than Lola, because she's pretty sensitive to correction, and he is a big meathead who doesn't feel a thing. this played out with the first part of training, with Lola turning around and leaving the steps at the first buzz, and Manu just standing there, wagging his tail, like he didn't feel a thing. we upped the setting three more times before Manu "got it", and then he immediately turned around and didn't go up the steps at all after that.
the weird thing is that Lola, who was clearly bothered by the experience, kept trying to go up to get the cat's area anyway. this confirmed something i had suspected. Lola may be more sensitive to correction, but she also has more "drive", and will put up with something she dislikes longer than Manu will. Lola sat on the steps, cycling through the collar's three 10 second failsafe cycles, then tried to climb over the baby gate as though nothing had happened.
we decided to up the correction one setting, with the theory that she'd find it so unpleasant it would stop her from climbing the steps, then we'd turn it back down once she realized she shouldn't be up there. unfortunately, she never did realize it, so we had to leave it on the higher setting. so hers is set lower than Manu's, but she reacts a lot more strongly to it (scratching at her neck, etc) than he does.
we'll keep the indoor boundary set up, and keep testing the dogs with it (hiding behind the railing and meowing usually does the trick) so that they're familiar with the warning tone. Manu is already pretty sure he knows what it means, and whenever Lola trips it, he'll bite her hind leg and pull her down the steps so the tone stops. he's such a big brother, always trying to keep sis out of trouble.
the outdoor training will begin later in the week, i'll post updates once we get done with them.
-kelly
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after having the appraisal for the real fencing coming out at over $11,000,

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Why so much, Kelly? 11K is astronomical!
Are you required to have a chain link or is it several acres you're trying to enclose?
Terri
That's how much it cost us for chain link to enclose 3/4 of 1.5 acres with chain link. Our dog park is looking at $15,000 to fence 1 acre.

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That's how much it cost us for chain link to enclose 3/4 of 1.5 acres with chain link. Our dog park is looking at $15,000 to fence 1 acre.

That sounds about right to me. There's some variability in things like the gauge of the wire, fence height, whether or not some or all of the elements are vinyl-coated, etc., but it seems to me that if you're going to put in something with a long life expectancy it's a good idea to go with as close to ideal as you can afford.

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That's how much it cost us for chain link to ... dog park is looking at $15,000 to fence 1 acre.

That sounds about right to me. There's some variability in things like the gauge of the wire, fence height, whether ... with a long life expectancy it's a good idea to go with as close to ideal as you can afford.

Sheesh! I'd no idea they cost that much!
I think I'd try to install it myself, at that cost. I'm not much of a fan of chainlink fences anyway.
The one and only experience I had with one was with my first GSD, who figured out how to easily climb it, as it was so taut.
That was during a brief period when we rented a house.
Terri
Why so much, Kelly? 11K is astronomical! Are you required to have a chain link or is it several acres you're trying to enclose?

Is chain link more expensive than wood?
Please say yes.
Cate
pricing wood fencing tomorrow
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Why so much, Kelly? 11K is astronomical! Are you required to have a chain link or is it several acres you're trying to enclose?

Is chain link more expensive than wood? Please say yes.

Yes. LOTS more expensive.
In fact,I mentioned the cost of Kelly's estimate to my husband and he was just as astonished.
The wood and wire fence we just put up around @1/2 acre was a few hundred Uasian ***. We made our own fence puller,too.

Terri
74476.news.uni-berlin.de: Is chain link more expensive than wood? Please say yes.

Yes. LOTS more expensive. In fact,I mentioned the cost of Kelly's estimate to my husband and he was just as ... we just put up around @1/2 acre was a few hundred Uasian ***. We made our own fence puller,too. Terri

We put up another 175' of fencing last year. By the time it was all said and done, jackhammer rented, 50 bags of cement for all the 4 x 4 post holes. 24 4 x 4 posts and heavy duty horse wire. It cost over $500.00.
I know chainlink around here often is $10,000.00
if one is doing 2 acres and having it done and not doing it yourself.
Gwen
Is chain link more expensive than wood? Please say yes.

Just as a data-point; I used 4' wire garden fencing- the kind with rectangular wire mesh and step-in poles- to fence off the back, one long side, and the short stretches from the side of the house to the property line on either side of the house. (The other long side already had fence, as our neighbor on that side has a pool and a wife who is dog-phobic.) The long side is approximately 110 feet, the back 73 feet, the bits from the side of the house adding another 12-15 feet.
Total cost of materials and installation- which included removing a large patch of bushes along the property line, and hauling away two pickup-truckloads of wood etc.- was around $800.
In addition to being inexpensive, I can repair it myself if need be, and since it's dark green, it blends in and is unobtrusive.

OTOH, I'm guessing that you're considering solid wood fencing for privacy reasons... btw, where did you end up?
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