i've only kept bugdies and cockatiels in the past but i'm thinking of getting a larger more chalenging bird, now i have more time on my hand's i can dedicate more to a larger bird.
the question is what breed would be best?.. the largest bird i have space for would be an african grey or amazon but i'm a little worried that i may be giving myself too much of a chalenge, so any help or advice thank's

crazyb
i've only kept bugdies and cockatiels in the past but i'm thinking of getting a larger more chalenging bird, now ... little worried that i may be giving myself too much of a chalenge, so any help or advice thank's crazyb

What are you up for? Noise? Mess? Budget? There are many factors to consider for a good recommendation.

Sincerely,
Joanne
If it's right for you, then it's right, . . . . . for you!!!

http://www.jobird.com
my cockatiel was pritty noisy and made lot's of mess as for cost my max limit would be close to £400 so anything below that would be ok. i could save for a amazon or african grey but not too sure how the rest of my house hold would cope with a parrot that big, hence i was thinking of a bird a little smaller.
thank's again
crazyb
i've only kept bugdies and cockatiels in the past but ... of a chalenge, so any help or advice thank's crazyb

What are you up for? Noise? Mess? Budget? There are many factors to consider for a good recommendation.

Personality also needs to be considered. Although each parrot has its own personality, it's probably fair to say that a grey is more likely to be slightly neurotic than a Jardine's. I've now put on my asbestos suit :-)

Does bsapla want a good talker and/or a good mimic?

Should it be a "one person" bird or more gregarious?

What does bsapla mean by "challenging"? If they want a challenge then animal shelters often have birds that have been appallingly mistreated.

Alan
What are you up for? Noise? Mess? Budget? There are many factors to consider for a good recommendation.

Personality also needs to be considered. Although each parrot has its own personality, it's probably fair to say that a ... mean by "challenging"? If they want a challenge then animal shelters often have birds that have been appallingly mistreated. Alan

Good information, Alan. Another thought is that bsapla appears to be in Great Britain. I have no idea what a bird sells for there. His/her GB peers could likely answer. Shelter birds are most affordable.

CAGs, neurotic? Well, yeah!!! I cooked up some liver last night and passed it out as warm treats. Everyone love it but Mandy took her sweet time getting over her fear of it first. I'll pass it out cold next time. She'll probably go through the same routine.

Sincerely,
Joanne
If it's right for you, then it's right, . . . . . for you!!!

http://www.jobird.com
Personality also needs to be considered. Although each parrot has ... shelters often have birds that have been appallingly mistreated. Alan

Good information, Alan. Another thought is that bsapla appears to be in Great Britain. I have no idea what a ... routine. Sincerely, Joanne If it's right for you, then it's right, . . . . . for you!!! http://www.jobird.com

thank's for your info i thought this newsgroup was in the UK, obviously some bird's are harder to get here in the UK than in the USA. so can anyone from the UK help if their is anyone from the UK here thank's again.
bsapla
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thank's for your info i thought this newsgroup was in the UK, obviously some bird's are harder to get here in the UK than in the USA. so can anyone from the UK help if their is anyone from the UK here thank's again.

I'm in Manchester, UK.
I suggest you have a look on some online shops such as http://www.hamer-pets.co.uk or in the back of "Cage and Aviary Birds" to get an idea of prices. If you are buying a young bird then you probably need to make sure that it is captive bred and has been hand-reared.

Here's the latest Hamer Pets price list:
E/B H/R C/R Baby African Greys - With Health Cert. for PBFD £ 525 Ea E/B H/R C/R Baby Double Yellow Headed Amazons DNA sexed £ 695 Ea E/B H/R C/R Baby Blue Fronted Amazons £ 495 Ea E/B H/R C/R Baby Greenwinged Macaw £1100 Ea E/B H/R C/R Baby Red Lored Amazon £ 500 Ea E/B H/R C/R Baby Senegal Parrot £ 225 E/B H/R Baby Orange Winged Amazon £ 350

Pearsons Pets (http://www.pearsonspets.com) is a bit (but not much) more expensive:
Baby Congo African Grey Parrots £599 Baby Silver African Grey Parrots £599 Baby Timneh African Grey Parrots £599 Baby Senegal Parrots £275 Baby Meyers Parrots £325 Baby Monkey Parrots (Black Headed Caiques) £499 Baby Yellow Naped Amazons £699 Baby Greenwing Macaws £1275

Pearsons allow you to go and see the baby parrots and to play with them before you make a choice. Hamer Pets will probably allow the same. They both have excellent reputations IME.
I would recommend playing with a bird before buying it as even when very young they have distinct personalities and IME that personality does carry on into later life.
Those two stores are in the North West but there are probably stores near wherever you live (unless it's the Highlands of Scotland).

I'm not sure there's any great difference in bird availability between the US and UK. One difference is that some species, e.g. quakers, are illegal in some US states.
bsapla

Alan (who has no affiliation with either store)
thank's for the info i'll look into those pet shop's a little more to see if i can find one closer to me, what bird or bird's do you have?.. bsapla