To Mention or not to mention. That is the question.

I am getting ready to take my new (to me) 10 year-old Golden/Chow mix dog to my vet for the first time. He had his shots about 11 months ago (I inherited him back then) and a lot has changed in his life since I took over:
1. He doesn't weigh 80 pounds anymore. By feeding him about 16-20oz. perday of Iams Weight Reduction food, he is down to about 65# now. Since I can now see his waist and feel his ribs, he is no longer on the weight reduction food. And before the nutty ones yap, he is not starving and doesn't get hungry until about 2 hours before feeding time (which I consider to be about right).
2. He was Mr. Alpha over my Father-in Law for 8 years. FIW is dead. Heis no longer Mr. Alpha. No beating, tussling, wrestling to the ground etc. went into this change. It was, and is, all about "attitude." Some people here helped me with this issue and it is still a minor struggle he doesn't miss a trick.
3. Here is where it gets dicey with the vet . . . The dog has chronicdiarrhea. He was being fed what I consider to be bad food (for a dog) for years (chocolate, fried chicken, baked chicken, raw chicken, raw beef, cooked beef, raw pork, cooked pork, ice cream, lots of milk, cooked vegetables) before I came along. I tried feeding him a mix of weight control kibbles and a teaspoon of canned dog food to add some flavor, but he would have mucasey diarrhea until I cut off the canned food completely and only fed him dried food (Iams Active Maturity).

My vet is a fairly reasonable fellow (I think) and since I have "cured" this dog of his constant diarrhea, and didn't have to do anything nutty (well, is giving him glucosomine for his hips nutty?) to do it should I even mention it when I take him in?
The reason I ask this is because some vets have "hot buttons" and for some, diarrhea is it. They want to order up thousands of dollars of tests . . . things we can't afford.
To Mention or not to mention. That is the question. I have it under control. The vet will ask me what I am feeding him, and nod his head in approval when I say what it is . . .
Should I say why?
My vet is a fairly reasonable fellow (I think) and since I have "cured" this dog of his constant diarrhea, ... what I am feeding him, and nod his head in approval when I say what it is . . .

if your dog doesn't currently (or recently) have diarrhea, i wouldn't mention it (unless it's bothering you). he's keeping a healthy weight now, right? he doesn't have any other related symptoms? dogs get the runs for about a billion reasons, and if it goes away, and you're obviously feeding him well, i'd say it's a non-issue.
one of my dogs has a "sensitive tummy". she gets the runs every other week or so, for a day or two. she's had several hundred dollars worth of tests, and there's nothing wrong with her except that she poops liquid if she's stressed or eats something weird. oh well, you just kind of get used to it.

of course, i'm not a vet, nor do i play one on tv.

-kelly
My vet is a fairly reasonable fellow (I think) and since I have "cured" this dog of his constant diarrhea, ... diarrhea is it. They want to order up thousands of dollars of tests . . . things we can't afford.

Yes, if he still had diarrhea, the vet would have reason to be concerned. But if he's having healthy stools now, then he no longer has a problem.

And that diet he was on was horrible - could well have been the cause.

IMHO, there are much better foods (and in some cases, less expensive) than Iam's. But if he's doing well on it, I wouldn't change his diet again right now.
Glucosamine for his hips is a good thing, especially when he was so overweight. But I would talk to the doctor about dosage, though.

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But I would talk to the doctor about dosage, though.

I intend to. I am giving him about 1/2 to 1/3 of a human dose based on his weight 250mg per day.
Wal-mart has a great deal on Glucosomine capsules, BTW. 100 250mg capsules for $7.50.
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To Mention or not to mention. That is the question. I have it under control. The vet will ask me what I am feeding him, and nod his head in approval when I say what it is . . . Should I say why?

I would - it's part of the dog's medical context. I haven't yet run into a vet that will recommend a bunch of tests for something that's under control, and you probably want to check the poop for parasites if that hasn't been done, anyway. But ultimately the vet can't force you to do anything you don't want to do or think is a genuinely bad idea. I tend to think it's in the best interest of the dog for the vet to have the whole story.

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My vet is a fairly reasonable fellow (I think) and since I have "cured" this dog of his constant diarrhea, ... giving him glucosomine for his hips nutty?) to do it should I even mention it when I take him in?

If he asks, absolutely. And it probably wouldn't hurt to mention it to him anyway. Chronic diarrhea can be serious business.

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The reason I ask this is because some vets have "hot buttons" and for some, diarrhea is it. They want to order up thousands of dollars of tests . . . things we can't afford.

Look, it's generally about as smart to lie to your vet as it is to lie to yourself. Be up from with him, explain what you've been doing, and how it's been helping. Unless your dog exhibits other health problems, there's no reason for your vet to order up tests costing thousands of dollars, or even hundreds of dollars. Or even tens of dollars.

He may, however, recommend some special diets for you, should your dog ever again exhibit chronic signs of diarrhea.
Good luck!

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To Mention or not to mention. That is the question. ... what it is . . . Should I say why?

I would - it's part of the dog's medical context. I haven't yet run into a vet that will recommend ... I tend to think it's in the best interest of the dog for the vet to have the whole story.

That is what I would do.
I've had vets suggest tests primarily to determine just how concerned *I* am about the issue. If I were concerned enough, they'd be willing to do them. Basically, they were saying "this is available for a conclusive answer (we hope)".
I've never had a vet object to my refusal of proposed tests if the dog was stable - especially if the problem was in the past and is now seemingly under control.
I probably wouldn't object to doing the worm tests - but I'm guessing nothing will be found. You can always postpone them until you see some indication of a change. It doesn't take an office appointment to drop off a stool sample later.
Probably what I would do is bring it up as a part of the dog's history and indicate what you have done and that you are satisfied that it's now under control.

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My dog has arthritis in her elbow as a result of an injury. Her vet recommended Adequan injections ($500+ initially; $90/mo thereafter) which we are holding off on. As an alternative he recommended CosaminDS capsules available at Costco for about $65 for 230 capsules. Each capsule has 500 mg glucosamine and 400 mg chondroitin. Vet said it was the only glucosamine product that is laboratory tested. Dog weighs 80 lbs and takes 4 capsules/day (vet set the dosage). She is doing much better only slight limp where before she would not put weight on arthritis leg. YMMV