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This may be my "almost last" post. Put my house on the market today, and applied to a wolf sanctuary in New Mexico. They don't punish wolves, do they? Emotion: smile

Chris, I think you should take some time off the computer and consult with someone whether its friend, family member, therapist. You lose Mac, obtain Gala, start a lawsuit against the vet practice, take a week off from work, hear a story & contact your attorneys about another lawsuit and put your house on the market. All of this in what, the space of 1-2 weeks? That's an awful lot of change and while I may not be giving you enough credit here, if so I apologize, it seems to me that these may well be rash decisions you'll later regret.

Tara
Curiously, and by the way: why is it, if you defend a human, you are a 'hero''; if you defend an animal, you are a criminal?
So, okay. In my recovery from losing Mac, I left the shelter for several days. In my absence, a member ... to deal with Mongo, a big, exuberant, Rottie/mix puppy. He dragged Mongo from his run, and, when Mongo bit him,

When you say "puppy"...
How old is Mongo exactly?
JohnR
Pit Bull Libertarian
Never sneer at the power of a little
pink squeaky toy!
Curiously, and by the way: why is it, if you defend a human, you are a 'hero''; if you defend an animal, you are a criminal?

Or, conversely: Why is it that if you
positively punish a dog, you are an
abuser, but if you positively punish
a trainer, you are a hero?
JohnR
Pit Bull Libertarian
Never sneer at the power of a little
pink squeaky toy!
Or, conversely: Why is it that if you positively punish a dog, you are an abuser, but if you positively punish a trainer, you are a hero? JohnR.Point taken, John. And guilty as charged.

I'm in awe of some trainer friends, who can approach an animal abuser and calmly say, "Have you ever thought of ..."
I simply attack. It's an area in which I claim no rationality. Oh, btw, your question about Mongo's age. About a year. Happy with a young couple who find his goofiness enchanting.
What a disappointment, Amy, that even you don't understand. I've passed APDT and AKC exams, but I have no desire to be a 'trainer'. I'm a simple caregiver, who will protect my charges like a tiger mom. Why is that difficult to understand?

I think it's pretty cool. The people I know who've done wolf park work have loved it, although not being a particularly patient person myself (ahem) I think I'd be able to put up with the wolf huggers for about two days before becoming seriously irritated.
Where in New Mexico?

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once in awhile the wolves may eat the researcher. Happened ... of her friend that was eaten (I forgot of course)..

What a disappointment, Amy, that even you don't understand. I've passed APDT and AKC exams, but I have no desire to be a 'trainer'. I'm a simple caregiver, who will protect my charges like a tiger mom. Why is that difficult to understand?

My point is, the wolves don't understand. I didn't say "trainer," I said "researcher." This was a woman who was devoted to the wolves, and idealized them, according to what I am told. Whatever confluence of circumstances led the wolves to one day view her as prey, her good intentions did not prevent her death.

Think about it. Do the wolves know you passed an exam? Do the wolves know you have an entire philosophy built around "protecting" animals? Do the wolves have any awareness that humans have so much control over their circumstances that such protection is even relevant? If you're going to deal with wolves, my suggestion is that you try to understand the parameters that guide their behavior, and avoid assuming that your intentions mean anything to them.

Amy Dahl
IMO, the story was a fabrication of one sort or another, and a feeble attempt to take a cheap shot at traditional training.

I got the same feeling about the view of traditional training. And I worry about a dog that is already having the owners cling to the sides of their bed with his bed hogginess.
Beth
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