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And I worry about a dog that is already having the owners cling to the sides of their bed with his bed hogginess. BethOh, damn, Beth. You, too?

They were joking. They think they won the lottery! "We got Marmaduke!", a big lovable goof who thrives on attention. And they love giving it to him.
Hmm. Where did the idea arise that newlyweds have only one thing on their minds?
My point is, the wolves don't understand. I didn't say "trainer," I said "researcher."Sorry, Amy. I misunderstood your point.

I have no intention of training wolves. "A trained wolf act" .. that's a real grotesquerie, isn't it? Somebody will probably think it's a fine idea.
They were joking.

I thought you said they've not owned a dog before. If true, they don't know the difference between "cute" and "stupid" truth be told, some people with dog-owning experience don't always know the difference.
They think they won the lottery!

And I thought Noah would enjoy obedience. Early days, Chris.
"We got Marmaduke!",

Not possible ***I*** have MarmaDUKE.
Hmm. Where did the idea arise that newlyweds have only one thing on their minds?

More button-pushing irrelevance.
More than likely, this little story was about as accurate as a Michael Moore movie.

I'm reminded of the time Chris posted gleefully and approvingly about how someone who came into the dog park with an e-collar on her dog was attacked by other people at the park.
And I worry about a dog that is already having the owners cling to thesides of their bed with his bed hogginess.

Yep. Having the dog cuddle in bed is one thing; having a newly-adopted large Rott mix - which has, according to Chris, apparently already been problematical at the shelter (there has to be a reason why the volunteers thought they needed to "call in" a trainer- TAKING OVER the bed is a pretty good recipe for problems down the road.
More than likely, this little story was about as accurate as a Michael Moore movie.

I'm reminded of the time Chris posted gleefully and approvingly about how someone who came into the dog park with an e-collar on her dog was attacked by other people at the park.

Why? Who attacked who? And if it was because of the e-collar well that is a "knee jerk" reaction, IMO about some tool the people know little about and how it can and can't be used. Period. While it should probably never be the first tool of choice I really get disturbed about the mindset of click, treat and bribe dogs as THE only way to go that is considered appropriate training methods. All dogs are not the same anymore then all humans are.

Gwen
Curiously, and by the way: why is it, if you defend a human, you are a 'hero''; if you defend an animal, you are a criminal?

Nonsense. ANY time people get in a physical scuffle- or even a verbal confrontation- police can be called and charges filed, regardless of the original reasons for the dispute.
More button-pushing irrelevance.

So. okay. Let me try again.. This is southern California, where we assume

I'd bet a month's salary that "we" does not include all residents of southern California.
(I'm geography-challenged. Isn't San Diego considered "southern California"? Doesn't Fred Hassen have a San Diego base?)
e-collar and traditional trainers have either died of old age, or been sued into bankruptcy. That one sttill exists, and was invited into our shelter, is beyond belief.

Why?
Head in the sand, Chris.
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