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Sarah, your paranoia is showing.

I fail to see how it's "paranoid" to factually point out that someone lives in Canada and doesn't have an AKC dog.

What you "pointed out" (and apparently incorrectly at that) was that AKC copied the idea for the sport of Rally from some other organization. The conversation went from there.
information about what AKC rally entails *is* in fact relevant to someone with a mixed-breed.

Only if A. you give the AMBOR information to the person instead of just mentioning AKC and explain what AMBOR is, while you're at it (including the fact that AMBOR doesn't put on trials)and B. if the person lives in the US.

Marie didn't express any interest in competing in Rally, only in knowing what the sport entails. I answered that question to the best of my knowledge, and you took that as an opportunity to snipe. As I said, I think it's very unfortunate that you didn't try to contribute something constructive instead. (I will note that you did so eventually - many posts down the line.)
I ain't the one who's "paranoid" here, and as I said to Robin, I am *** sick and tired of having something projected into my posts that isn't there.

Sorry, Sarah - you a) implied that AKC somehow stole the sport of rally from another organization or organizations, and b) jumped to the conclusion that the only reason a person (specifically Robin) might not be aware of APDT's Rally program is because she's solely focused on AKC events. In fact, if you actually go to APDT's website, you'll note that there's no upcoming APDT Rally events anywhere west of the Mississippi or south of Maryland... which certainly leaves out an awfully large part of the US, doesn't it?

But, of course the reason that anyone might not be aware of APDT rally is because all they care about is the evil AKC. That's what I mean by paranoia. Your posts are a matter of public record - if people are projecting things into them that aren't there, then how come so many people have read them the exact same way?
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I missed that the first time around... I think Tee ... Pit Bull breed club which is affiliated with the UKC.

Yes, I was. I thought it was odd that the breed club had its own rally (duh).

ASCA has its own herding program, so I guess it didn't seem at all odd to me. (I, too, sometimes read faster than my brain processes, and sometimes interesting "translations" occur.)

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What's *** is your constant shitty attitude towards >anything AKC,

What's *** is that I don't HAVE such an attitude. You and Robin are both projecting something into what I write that simply isn't there.
where ya been Sarah?
Adding a bit of levity here..
I stewarded for(AKC) Rally for the first time on Friday. I loved it - although it moves so fast that the stewards are definitely kept hopping! Worked Novice A, which meant a lot of nerves and too many tight leashes dragging the dog around - that was something the judge made a point about before judging - tight leashes would be penalized, and for many, that meant NQ.
I definitely found it to be very "friendly" obedience. It's really no wonder it's becoming popular.

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What you "pointed out" (and apparently incorrectly at that) was that AKCcopied the idea for the sport of Rally from some other organization.

Nope. I said I was under the impression that's what they'd done; Robin has explained that in actuality, the two programs have basically developed in tandem from one starting point.
In a seperate post, made about 30 seconds after that one - I hit "send" too soon, and it was intended to be one post- I pointed out that Marie's not in the U.S. and has a mixed breed dog, so information about AKC Rally was probably not relevant to her.
Marie didn't express any interest in competing in Rally, only in knowing what the sport entails.

Actually, she expressed an interest in a Rally-O class which was going to be taught. And again, my point was simply that she was unlikely to be asking about "what the AKC intends", because she doesn't live in the U.S., and therefore it was unlikely that the class was the AKC version of the sport.
I answered that question to the best of my knowledge, and you took that as an opportunity to snipe.

If you insist on seeing "sniping" in what was intended, pure and simple, as information, that's your problem.
Sorry, Sarah - you a) implied that AKC somehow stole the sport of rallyfrom another organization or organizations,

Sigh. That is NOT what I said. Your post seemed to be saying that AKC had created Rally, and all I said was (in essence) "Gee, I thought they adapted it from another program, the way they did agility". Robin then explained that in this case, it was more of a parallel development.
and b) jumped to the conclusion that
the only reason a person (specifically Robin) might not be aware of APDT's Rally program is because she's solely focused on AKC events.

Sigh. Once again, that's not what I said. "Primarily" and "solely" are not the same thing.
And once again, it was neither a snipe nor an insult, merely a guess in response to her SAYING she wasn't aware of it; and if you had paid attention, you'd have noticed that I ALSO said that I didn't know about the AKC program until about a year ago for the same reason in reverse - e.g. that my focus is primarily on non-AKC events.
But, of course the reason that anyone might not be aware >of APDT rallyis because all they care about is the evil AKC. That's what I >mean byparanoia.

And as I said, the paranoia isn't mine. You're choosing to project the "evil AKC" bit into what were actually simple statements of fact.

And with that, I'm back out of both this thread AND this NG for at least another week... got too much to do in RL.
Okay, I'll play. If the above is true, why did you make the crack today on AgileDogs about a large-breed handler damaging her dog in an effort to run in AKC at 12 months? All you had to say was that in your opinion the large dog was asked for too much, too soon. The handler and the coach are to blame in that instance, NOT AKC.

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where ya been Sarah?

Too busy to have time for newsgroups, is all... what with work, relationship, agility season starting, relatives coming to visit, etc. Not to mention Bob adding another dog to our households... see my post in the .breeds group!
I definitely found it to be very "friendly" obedience. It's >really no wonder it's becoming popular.

It seems to me, from what I've heard of it, that it's more "real life" than the formal version(s), as well.
I do hope (and I'm sure this, too, will get the usual projection into it -P) that the AKC's decision to make it a titling sport doesn't end up quashing the APDT version, and/or that the UKC will get their act together on it; I think it would be a real pity if non-AKC dogs end up being totally ineligible to participate.
Which has, unfortunately, happened with agility in some areas of the country - see elegy's post. I'm very lucky in that I live in an area where NADAC, USDAA, and ASCA were well-established and popular before the AKC program started.
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Man, that's one heck of a TAIL!

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Isn't it? She has enough tail for three dogs.
Hmm. I was going to change that sentence, but I think I'll just leave it as it is.
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