I was wondering what happens in your town or city when there is a dog bite?

Where does it get reported?
Who comes out?
What do they want to know?
Do they quarantine the dog?
Do they take the dog or can you have the quarantine at home?

Paulette~
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I was wondering what happens in your town or city when there is a dogbite? Where does it get reported? ... know? Do they quarantine the dog? Do they take the dog or can you have the quarantine at home? Paulette~

- I don't know the answer to those questions. I do want to ask what is considered a bite, is a nip or snap enough or does it have to be all teeth resulting in a flesh wound ?
Lone
It differs depending on the severity of the bite and other pertinent details. If a dog bites (not mauls) while unattended and off its property then AC will personally quarantine the dog because the owner showed that they can't be trusted to keep the dog supervised. If its a bite on the dog's property and is not severe then AC will often let the dog remain at the home under quarantine. If its a second offense the dog is confiscated and can sometimes be returned depending on where/how the incident happened. Three times and the dog is gone for good. If serious, disfiguring or disabling injury is inflicted then the dog gets quarantined at AC then euthanized after 10 days regardless of whether or not its a first offense.
Anything that doesn't break the skin is considered a nip and the owners get a warning. If a second warning is issued, its accompanied by a fine. If a third warning is issued, its accompanied by a larger fine (it varies in range). If a 4th warning is issued then the dog can be confiscated or ordered pts. Alot depends on the situation and sadly enough on who the AC officer on call is. Different AC officers operate differently, even within the same town.

Some could care less and act like they're being bothered when called. Some care alot and some are a bit too overzealous. I've found this to be true of many town AC officers but then if they're paid next to nothing, have a poor working environment and there's no incentive to care about the job then they're not going to.

Tara
I have found that most bite reports are not bites. They are either a torn clothing,or a tooth dragged across and which makes a mark when someone is running away,or the person falls down and they are scraped.
However all these things here will be construed as a BITE, IF it is reported. A BITE to me is when the skin in broken, and you can see tooth marks. Here we are very dog orientated so a dog gets a lot of chances, If a dog has attacked and hurt someone enough to require stitches the dog will be quarantined for ten days and then we will go from there.

Paulette~
Yup
If a dog bites (not mauls) while unattended and off its property then AC will personally quarantine the dog because the owner showed that they can't be trusted to keep the dog supervised.

Hmm
That is not like that here. Of course it does depend on a lot of things.
If its a bite on the dog's property and is not severe then AC will often let the dog remain at the home under quarantine. If its a second offense the dog is confiscated and can sometimes be returned depending on where/how the incident happened.

WOW, I have to say nothing like that here.
Three times and the dog is gone for good.

Not here.
If serious, disfiguring or disabling injury is inflicted then the dog gets quarantined at AC then euthanized after 10 days regardless of whether or not its a first offense.

How often have you seen such happen?
Anything that doesn't break the skin is considered a nip and the owners get a warning. If a second warning ... confiscated or ordered pts. Alot depends on the situation and sadly enough on who the AC officer on call is.

Yes
Now what do you mean sadly enough?
You think a dog that nips should be put to sleep?
Don't you think it is the owners most likely?
Different AC officers operate differently, even within the same town. Some could care less and act like they're being bothered when called.

Some care alot and some are a bit too overzealous. I've found
this to be true of many town AC officers but then if they're paid next to nothing, have a poor working environment and there's no incentive to care about the job then they're not going to.

Next to nothing? I believe here the starting pay is around 48 for the part time officer and more of course for the full time officer.

In fact I am thinking now it is even more.
They have a brand new building, new vehicles,and are respected here by all of us.
We also have five full time NRO's.
Paulette~
I was wondering what happens in your town or city when there is a dog bite? Where does it get ... to know? Do they quarantine the dog? Do they take the dog or can you have the quarantine at home?

In my area it doesn't even require an actual bite, and it doesn't require a human be involved. My parents dog got loose and aggressively went after a smaller dog. No injury but very frightening. Animal control took the dog, would not allow home quarantine, inspected the fencing, required locks on the gates, and a "vicious dog" sign was required. They DID get the dog back though.
My parents dog has not had a repeat so was not judged by this: "31602. "Potentially dangerous dog" means any of the following: (a) Any dog which, when unprovoked, on two separate occasions within the prior 36-month period, engages in any behavior that requires a defensive action by any person to prevent bodily injury when the person and the dog are off the property of the owner or keeper of the dog.
(b) Any dog which, when unprovoked, bites a person causing a less severe injury than as defined in Section 31604.
(c) Any dog which, when unprovoked, on two separate occasions within the prior 36-month period, has killed, seriously bitten, inflicted injury, or otherwise caused injury attacking a domestic animal off the property of the owner or keeper of the dog.

HOWEVER, the law also allows local jursidictions to "impose a more restrictive program to control potentially dangerous or vicious dogs" And many have created programs where much less severe behavior is judged vicious.
The only good thing is that California specifically states that "no program shall regulate these dogs in a manner that is specific as to breed."
Diane Blackman
WOW, I have to say nothing like that here.

You don't think a dog with a history of biting is dangerous enough to warrant a WOW but the consequences are?
Three times and the dog is gone for good.

Not here.

I'm glad that's the case here. I have a problem with dogs who are known biters and allowed to continue biting.
If serious, disfiguring or disabling injury is inflicted then the ... 10 days regardless of whether or not its a firstoffense.

How often have you seen such happen?

I haven't personally seen it happen because I don't work in the shelter but I know *of* it happening. Most recently was a Boxer who mauled an infant in a baby swing.
Anything that doesn't break the skin is considered a nip ... sadly enough on who the AC officer on call is.

Yes Now what do you mean sadly enough?

Because offenses that should have been given serious attention were let to slide while offenses that were minor, or where the dog was clearly provoked, resulted in the dog being confiscated. Its also not at all helpful to call AC because a dog gave you reason to fear for your safety only to have the AC officer act like you were bothering him/her. As public servants they should at least try to appear interested and helpful.
You think a dog that nips should be put to sleep? Don't you think it is the owners most likely?

I think it depends on the situation. No, I don't think its always the owner's fault. I don't buy into the theory that all aggression is based on some kind of human misdeed. There are dogs who are born with issues and who aren't trustworthy yet their owners don't know it until the dog does something. I think a dog that is allowed to nip enough to warrant AC attention on 4 occasions is a dog who doesn't belong with that owner and who is pretty much unadoptable in a shelter so there is no remaining option.
Some care alot and some are a bit too overzealous. ... to care about the job then they're not going to.

Next to nothing? I believe here the starting pay is around 48 for the parttime officer and more of course for the full time officer.

That's regional difference for you. Police Officers only start at $27k here. I think AC starts at $18k
They have a brand new building, new vehicles,and are respected here byall of us.

AC doesn't have a building in my town. They operate out of the police department and all dogs are taken to the main county shelter.

Tara
I am so glad it is not like that here.
I would be like TAKE MY DOG OVER MY DEAD BODY,really!
My parents dog has not had a repeat so was not judged by this: "31602. "Potentially dangerous dog" means any ... injury, or otherwise caused injury attacking a domestic animal off the property of the owner or keeper of the dog.

YOur parents breed of dog? Considered aggressive?
HOWEVER, the law also allows local jursidictions to "impose a more restrictive program to control potentially dangerous or vicious dogs" ... that California specifically states that "no program shall regulate these dogs in a manner that is specific as to breed."

Here if there is a very bad problem a dog is bonded.

And in all the years I have been here,I know of no dogs that were put down because they were a problem.
People keep going to court or move.
The last known case was a very arrogant doctor who had two Akits's that were not socialized nor spayed or neutered.
They had gotten ot of the prooperty on several occassions ,and the owner had been warned.
The last time the dogs went thru a screen door and killed a dog.

The owner got all sorts of doggie shrinks and trainers and went to court to save his dogs...
It was quite the scene,and I do believe he was a real jerk for sure.

Last I heard he still had the dogs but they went on vacation.
Paulette~
at confiscated happened.

WOW, I have to say nothing like that here.

You don't think a dog with a history of biting is dangerous enough to warrant a WOW but the consequences are?

You said the bites were not severe.
And yes I do have an issue with dogs being taken away.

Of course again it would depend on the whole story.
Not here.

I'm glad that's the case here. I have a problem with dogs who are known biters and allowed to continue biting.

You are?
Well, we definitely think differently.
If you are saying the dog is taken away to find a better home, and be put up for adoption,ok but if you are sayinga dog that has bitten or perhaps not really bitten at all is to be put down I think that sucks.
offense.

How often have you seen such happen?

I haven't personally seen it happen because I don't work in the shelter but I know *of* it happening. Most recently was a Boxer who mauled an infant in a baby swing.

The parents owned the Boxer?
If in

Yes Now what do you mean sadly enough?

Because offenses that should have been given serious attention were let to slide while offenses that were minor, or where the dog was clearly provoked, resulted in the dog being confiscated.

So then there is no weighing of what happened? Something minor could be deemed major, and visa versa?
Its also not at all helpful to call AC because a dog gave you reason to fear for your safety only to have the AC officer act like you were bothering him/her.

I would not like that. However there are a lot of freaked up people that HATE DOGS,a nd think up reasons to get rid of the dog they might see.
As public servants they should at least try to appear interested and helpful.

Or want to know the whole story and do a good evaluation.
You think a dog that nips should be put to sleep? Don't you think it is the owners most likely?

I think it depends on the situation. No, I don't think its always the owner's fault.

I do.
I don't buy into the theory that all aggression is based
on some kind of human misdeed.

Nipping can be a lot of things. It can be a verymouthy dog that sees something in someone's hands and jumps up to grab it to play fetch.

There are dogs who are born with issues and
who aren't trustworthy

Not that many.
yet their owners don't know it until the dog does something. I think a dog that is allowed to nip ... doesn't belong with that owner and who is pretty much unadoptable in a shelter so there is no remaining option.

Well again IMO it is the owner, as they probably did not do much training with the dog.It also could be the shelter that adopted the dog out and did not do a good evaluation.
to care

Oh.
We even have a doggie cemetery.
And another part that looks just like someone's living room so t he dog can get used to a house.
Paulette~
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