All,
I've got a new puppy (5 months old, Pomeranian), and I've had her since she was 9 weeks. We started day 1 with crate training and she's taken very well to it. She walks into the crate (gate is open) during the day to nap, and will stay in there for many hours when we are out at dinner, shopping, etc. We've closed the door when we know we're not going to be nearby to make sure she's not getting into anything. She doesn't seem to mind, and occaisionally we've had to tempt her just to get her out of the crate. She's taken it to be her den.

Being that she's still made a 'mistake' once or twice in the last three weeks, I'm not yet comfortable with giving her free range of the house during the day, but I have two questions for the group:
1. When should I try leaving the crate door open at night, overnight?Currently I put her up to bed at about 10pm (after making sure we've played with her sufficiently to make her tired). We've got a separate (little smaller) crate for use upstairs in the bedrooms. Most ever night, she sleeps from 10pm thru until about 7am (bangs her paws on the grate, or a little whine). She sleeps in the crate (door closed) currently in either me or my mom's room. Ideas when she might be ready to sleep with the door open? Or on a bed or doggie bed?
2. When should I try giving her free 'run' during the day? Currently(as we speak), my parents are home (79yo & 80yo) and my mom keeps an eye on her. She puts her in the crate whenever she knows she's going to be out of the living room or elsewhere occupied for a long period of time. Recently, she's left her out during the time, and she's found the pup sleeping on the couch or watching tv (I swear, I've seen it).

I have found tons of sites and articles on how to start the crate training, but not much on transistions to outside the crate.

Kevin
pup sleeping on the couch or watching tv (I swear, I've seen it).

We've got a 5 month old cocker spaniel pup who thinks that TV rocks.

Bob
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1. When should I try leaving the crate door open at night, overnight? Ideas when she might be ready to sleep with the door open? Or on a bed or doggie bed?

With a puppy I've had from the beginning, I generally give them bedroom freedom at 4 months. Gated doorway or closed door, depending on household. What kinds "accidents" is she having and when?
2. When should I try giving her free 'run' during the day? Currently (as we speak), my parents are home ... during the time, and she's found the pup sleeping on the couch or watching tv (I swear, I've seen it).

I personally like keeping a pup with me until I know they are reliable, rather than crate them. Sounds like the pup is not misbehaving during her unsupervised freedom and doing fine. Checking in on her, not shutting her in a certain room, but giving her freedom to be witht the owner(s), all good things.

Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
1. When should I try leaving the crate door open ... the door open? Or on a bed or doggie bed?

With a puppy I've had from the beginning, I generally give them bedroom freedom at 4 months. Gated doorway or closed door, depending on household. What kinds "accidents" is she having and when?

The two accidents she's had over the last couple of weeks were when we had company,and I lost track of her. She probably gave me the signs that she had to go out, but we were distracted by the company.
2. When should I try giving her free 'run' during ... the couch or watching tv (I swear, I've seen it).

I personally like keeping a pup with me until I know they are reliable, rather than crate them. Sounds like ... her, not shutting her in a certain room, but giving her freedom to be witht the owner(s), all good things.

She's doing well when left to her own devices, like right now - I'm in the basement and my mom is upstairs folding laundry. The pup is just playing with her toys or chews. I'm just wondering when it will be reasonable to expect her to be left alone (not locked in the crate) when we go out for a few hours - and how to know when she's ready.
She's doing well when left to her own devices, like right now - I'm in the basement and my mom ... locked in the crate) when we go out for a few hours - and how to know when she's ready.

When she's 100% reliable when you are home. Overnight will be a fairly good indication of some of that.

Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
I'm just wondering when it will be reasonable to expect her to be left alone (not locked in the crate) when we go out for a few hours - and how to know when she's ready.

I'd puppy-proof a place like the kitchen and test her a little bit at a time, adding more time to being away. When you come back in, don't greet her, just let her out (or walk her) and greet her after she's eliminated outside.
Is she on a fairly predictable potty schedule?

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I'd puppy-proof a place like the kitchen and test her a little bit at a time, adding more time to being away. When you come back in, don't greet her, just let her out (or walk her) and greet her after she's eliminated outside.

This is what I do with puppies. I gradually expand their living space. I'm not a trainer, but the way I think of it is that I am expanding the space they think of as "theirs." So initially I use an exercise pen, then I expand it to a gated area (in my case, the kitchen). Then after time, I add the dining room, then I gate off the front of the house and eventually they get full run of the house.
I take it slowly and every time I expand their area, I watch the pup like a hawk (kind of a supervised freedom). After expanding an area, I will leave them in the formerly smaller area when I go out, briefly at first.

Hopefully I have explained myself sufficiently. I have the after lunch sleepies.

Lynne
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