I notice that Wipe Out says no Alcohol but does not give active ingredient on bottle. While other Sanitizers have the Active Ingredient Ethyl Alcohol. Will Alcohol products harm reptiles.
Sting
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I notice that Wipe Out says no Alcohol but does not give active ingredient on bottle. While other Sanitizers have the Active Ingredient Ethyl Alcohol. Will Alcohol products harm reptiles.

Only if they binge-drink it. The whole point of various alcohols in hand sanitizers is that it evaporates quickly (i.e. it doesn't persist on the skin). If it were unsafe for reptiles, I think a lot of zoos need to be informed, since that's what I see them use in their roving reptile displays! )

Chris McMartin

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I thought because Zoo Med was playing up the fact that wipe out had no Alcohol...That there might be a reason
Sting
I thought because Zoo Med was playing up the fact that wipe out had no Alcohol...That there might be a reason

Ok, this isn't going to be a popular response (especially for manufacturers); but do not forget: Reptiles and reptile-keeping/breeding has become BIG business for many manufacturers of various herp products.

ZooMed, T-Rex, ESU, the list goes on...and as with ANY big business, marketing, advertising, and sales are the priority of these manufacturers.

"Alcohol free" may be the next "in your face" advertising/marketing scheme to entice herp owners out of their monies.
That isn't to say that many products offered by these companies are useless...but as with any industry that is as competitive as the pet trade; the marketing machine will do what it can to get your hard-earned dollars out of your pocket into theirs.
For example:
ZooMed 100w Heat Lamp = $5.50 - $10.00ea. (depending on where it is purchased)
GE 100w Soft-white light bulb = 4 for $.99 (WalMart, K-Mart)

The temperatures achieved with both are identical (providing you are using a dimmer/rheostat/thermometer), and the GE bulbs last much longer.

I have used regular light bulbs for years and have never encountered problems nor seen a decrease in performance because the word "reptile" or "exotic" was not a part of the packaging design.
For those animals that require constant heat during non-daylight hours, I use a Ceramic Heat emitter designed for commercial chicken incubators (approx. cost $9.50 where I purchase them) compared to $30.00 - $40.00+ for those designed for reptiles.
This is where asking questions and doing research can be of great importance for herp owners. Just because it is made "especially for reptiles" doesn't mean it is the only product one should use nor that they are even safe (especially in the case of dry Iguana diets and supplements).

Taking some time to learn about the industry and the animals you own or would like to own will benefit any herper as to what products are safe, what products are needed, and what products are a big vacuum aimed at your pocketbooks.
~Wade
For those animals that require constant heat during non-daylight hours, I use a Ceramic Heat emitter designed for commercial chicken incubators (approx. cost $9.50 where I purchase them) compared to $30.00 - $40.00+for those designed for reptiles.

Gosh, I wish I had known that a year ago when I was improving my lizards' setup. The memory of buying that thing is still painful. I take it you got yours from a feed store?
Glorai
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Gosh, I wish I had known that a year ago when I was improving my lizards' setup. The memory of buying that thing is still painful. I take it you got yours from a feed store? Glorai

I would say always try the feed store before shopping any where else for animal supplies. They have been doing it for decades longer than any pet store, and should have whatever you need.
Chad
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For those animals that require constant heat during non-daylight hours, I use a Ceramic Heat emitter designed for commercial chicken incubators (approx. cost $9.50 where I purchase them) compared to $30.00 - $40.00+ for those designed for reptiles.

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Taking some time to learn about the industry and the animals you own or would like to own will benefit any herper as to what products are safe, what products are needed, and what products are a big vacuum aimed at your pocketbooks. ~Wade

Wade, you are very correct and a great many feel the same way when it comes to the name brands and the 'pet store' pushers. It's nice to have the reptile specific items at a pet store to help out the newbies, but at the same time, it tends to convince people out of the hobby or worse, to not purchase everything the animal needs.I have been teaching basic reptile care classes to children for about 5 years now. In the week-long class, we have a 'purchasing' day where we make a large chart of the cost of setting up a leopard gecko, a bearded dragon, a small colubrid and an aboreal set up for geckos or frogs. We chart everything out, then I ask them to go 'shopping' through reptile, pet care catalogs, poultry and livestock supply catalogs and so on. They are always surprised at the price differences.

I also give them a list of supplies that be purchased at Wal-Mart instead of the pet stores and a list of items that can not be scrimped or saved on that should be purchased from a pet store or catalog. It's a great exercise and it really helps the kids to understand the importance of setting up the enclosure first. Right now one of my students has a fifty gallon tank with all equipment waiting for his first baby bearded dragon. I will be purchasing it for him at the next show I go to! He mowed lawns the whole summer to be able to purchase it.

The tank... he shopped around and bought it from the classifieds!
Wade, you are very correct and a great many feel the same way when it comes to the name brands ... same time, it tends to convince people out of the hobby or worse, to not purchase everything the animal needs.

This sounds like a good item for the FAQ. Remind me to put it in!

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